Furlough estimate

Reply Subscribe

Page 189 of 195

189

Thread Tools

Search this Thread

09-08-2020, 06:31 AM

#1881

JimLaheyTPS

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: May 2019

Posts: 432

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Czervik

You may be thinking of someone else. I’m a “newer guy” than your post eludes. My UAL bud said 35-40% pay cut. I was shocked to hear it. My opinion of the UAL pilot group is nothing but respect. We are all taking on water.

Your “UAL bud” sounds like a drama queen. I wouldn’t listen to much of what he has to say at this point on.

09-08-2020, 06:38 AM

#1882

MasterOfPuppets

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Feb 2012

Position: 787

Posts: 3,202

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Czervik

yeah about 2850 of our pilots are about to get 100% pay cut.

define “pay cut” and maybe we can talk about your rumor.

09-08-2020, 06:40 AM

#1883

Al Czervik

You scratched my anchor

Joined APC: Feb 2011

Posts: 4,967

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

yeah about 2850 of our pilots are about to get 100% pay cut.

define “pay cut” and maybe we can talk about your rumor.

We are in the same boat. All the info he had was 35-40% and no furloughs.

09-08-2020, 06:45 AM

#1884

MasterOfPuppets

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Feb 2012

Position: 787

Posts: 3,202

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Czervik

We are in the same boat. All the info he had was 35-40% and no furloughs.

I think the proposal will be a MPG reduction and line credit range reduction. So yes a pay cut but the hourly rates will not be touched. Pilots will be a ble to pick up as much OT as they want. Depending on the seniority of a pilot they may not see any reduction in pay or QOL.

09-08-2020, 06:49 AM

#1885

Al Czervik

You scratched my anchor

Joined APC: Feb 2011

Posts: 4,967

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

Thanks. It’s clear something has to happen. I hope everyone establishes concrete (as possible) snap backs.

09-08-2020, 06:52 AM

#1886

MasterOfPuppets

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Feb 2012

Position: 787

Posts: 3,202

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Czervik

Thanks. It’s clear something has to happen. I hope everyone establishes concrete (as possible) snap backs.

mid there is no sunset and no SnapBack then it won’t pass.

09-08-2020, 07:42 AM

#1887

Poss

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Jan 2020

Posts: 215

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

Wadr the notion of "depending upon pilot seniority" you will not get a paycut won't work. With as little flying as we have for the foreseeable future, saying pilots will be able to pick up as much time as they want is a blatant misconception and talking point of many who want to sell this rumored agreement. It will be the top 10 to maybe 15% that can add time to their schedule. The vast majority will eat cake and be stuck. Even 10-15% is a stretch because of the top 5% who build their schedules to obscene amounts.

Insult to injury, the top 10-15% in every seat save the NB effo will be in the rumored tier taking the least mpg hit. Go figure.

Last edited by Poss; 09-08-2020 at 08:20 AM.

09-08-2020, 07:44 AM

#1888

JurgenKlopp

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Jun 2019

Posts: 502

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poss

Wadr the notion of "depending upon pilot seniority" is not going to work. It will be the top 10 to maybe 15% that can add time to their schedule. The vast majority will eat cake and be stuck. Even 10-15% is a stretch because of the top 5% who build their schedules to obscene amounts.

And given how many of the 5% are SCABS, I’m mortified that this is even being kicked around...

09-08-2020, 08:07 AM

#1889

Viperstick

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Aug 2013

Posts: 280

The longer TK is operating at full capacity, the faster the company can cut to the bone. The "snapback" date will coincide with when TK will be caught up. I'm predicting Aug 31st, 2021 for the MOAF (Mother of All Furloughs).