FXLAX

Strawman...I never said COVID cares about Left and Right. The comments on Left and Right were in response to someone else’s comments about tolerance for other’s ideas. That’s why my comments about COVID and those on cancel culture are in separate paragraphs. They are only related in that way this disagreement probably will lead to people trying to cancel those with a different view. That’s what I meant by the comment, on a related note.


That too, including timelines and the demographics of those who tested positive and died. I’m all for it. More information is better, not just getting the daily positive case number. All this information provides full context.

Mudge

Yep. Someone or something has pitted us against each other and we've fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Our economy is going down the drain and we're making political statements on who and why you should wear a mask while deleting American history for political gain. In the meantime: 30% of rent/mortgage payments were missed in June. Neither side has helped the American worker/family and we're too busy making memes about the bad orange man or the old guy who forgets his name to address the most concerning and immediate issues. Seems the PPP bailed out the upper class but not much in a way of labor. Atleast the CARES act gave many of us time to prepare to join the ranks of missed rents statistcis. I dont think our problems are the government anymore than the baffonery of the media and the general public for buying into it.

TillerTemptress

"cancel culture" is not related to one party or the other. Growing up I remember hearing how X video game should be "banned" because it promoted violence (mostly by the right). Or the whole Janet Jackson thing (again, mostly from the right)...
Also simply "surviving" covid doesn't mean it isn't life altering. There are still people having bad symptoms 2 or 3 months later - I know a pilot that's tested negative a long time but still struggling to breath and lungs do not look good. This was a young person who now has heavily damaged lungs. Not counted as a death, since not a death.

FXLAX

That’s true, on both points...to an extent. It’s been part of both sides, yes. Although I characterize Tipper Gore wanting to put explicit labels on albums and such things as you mentioned from the Right as well as different than the Left demanding, for today’s example, Goya to fire its CEO and boycot the company for simply stating his positive opinion on the president. The difference is one is personal and attempting to ruin one’s livelihood and their life in general versus trying to put labels on CD covers. Today, we see that the Right doesn’t try to do such silly things anymore. But we do see the Left getting more and more militant with their cancel culture, mostly when it’s not their side though. Apparently you can lean Left (Jackson) and make antisemitic tweets but still keep your job.

As for COVID symptoms, report that too! Along with the demographics of those people including any comorbidities. Like I said, more information is better for context. They should report people who have completely recovered along with those who were asymptotic to begin with. All information should be readily available and reported by all outlets.

stevo22

Anyone have a wild guess at how many lives could have been saved if we took half the money our country’s response to COVID has cost us and instead spent it on other forms of healthcare for our citizens and other diseases that currently take millions of lives every year? I’d bet it’s a lot more than COVID’s death toll will ever reach.

FXLAX

This is also a good point. I would like to see a daily running total of heart desease, cancer, accidents, influenza, suicide, homicide, abortions, other comunicable diseases, etc (along with demographics). Maybe perceptions would change about all these things.

TillerTemptress

Uhhh, isn't the right/the president complaining about twitter and wanting to boycott twitter for fact checking a false trump tweet? Sorry dude, I don't see it. It's both sides.



As for leading causes of death, well.. in April, Covid-19 was up there.
https://usafacts.org/articles/top-ca...-and-covid-19/
A lot of the other causes of death aren't as easily preventable though as "wear a mask and limit exposure to other people". I mean, cancer is certainly up there, but it's not easy to just cure cancer, obviously.

CantTaxiToACS

This is the exact thought that angrily keeps me awake at night. Trillions and trillions... gone. Could’ve been put somewhere affective.

LumberJack

Because you're wrong!

The rates are going up in a lot of states.

https://www.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/index.html#cases

CousinEddie

The case fatality rate is going down, not up. The hysteria rate is maintained at a high level regardless.


https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/coronavirus-cfr