756 Fleet Parked?
#131
5 of 53 752s
#132
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
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Seems like a good place to start right there. Current network planners have always hated the 752; they have stated that repeatedly. They don’t mind the 753, and the 763 has been a good LHR performer. So permanently retire at least 48 752s for starters and surplus based off of that. Throw the new MAXes on to whatever they were doing as required and if a MAX can’t do it then don’t operate the city pair.
there is flight ops townhall on Thursday. I bet we will hear more before then. No way do they launch into a townhall without having more communication upfront.
#134
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You’re giving the company way too much credit. I wouldn’t be shocked if they simply say “we know you all want answers but we are waiting to get a better picture from network planning and crew resources. Right now we just don’t have any specifics to share. Moving on”
#135
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You just about quoted Larry verbatim.
#137
Where it gets very difficult to predict with displacements is that the junior pilot remaining in a BES that has displacements on the posting is not necessarily the junior pilot at the end. If 1 senior pilot volunteers to be displaced the senior most pilot that was displaced now becomes the junior pilot in the base. This dynamic number is what determines where you can bump to. So, if it looks like you can't hold a BES because they have bumped all the pilots currently in that BES junior to you doesn't mean you should not submit that BES as your preference. When they run the displacement it is what you can hold when they get to your seniority number, so if pilots senior to you have volunteered, you may not be displaced at all or may be able to hold a different BES that it didn't appear you would.
Here is my simplified example:
BES A
sn 10000
sn 10010
sn 10020
sn 10030 displaced
sn 10040 displaced
Let's say you are in BES B and your seniority number is 10025 and you are being displaced. It looks like you can't bump to BES A. However, if the pilot that is sn 10020 decided to volunteer for the displacement, then the pilot sn 10030 becomes the junior pilot in BES A, so you actually can.
As you can imagine when you have a large multi base displacement, the bottom numbers can change a lot as some people would rather move to a new plane than remain really junior in their current position.
Here is my simplified example:
BES A
sn 10000
sn 10010
sn 10020
sn 10030 displaced
sn 10040 displaced
Let's say you are in BES B and your seniority number is 10025 and you are being displaced. It looks like you can't bump to BES A. However, if the pilot that is sn 10020 decided to volunteer for the displacement, then the pilot sn 10030 becomes the junior pilot in BES A, so you actually can.
As you can imagine when you have a large multi base displacement, the bottom numbers can change a lot as some people would rather move to a new plane than remain really junior in their current position.
Say I'm a EWR 737 Captain. My name is on a displacement letter. I WANT to stay an EWR 737 Captain but would choose EWR 787 FO if I can't hold it. In normal vacancy bidding you don't put in your current CAT/BES. In displacement bidding, is the ability to put your current seat to stay in it as first choice there followed by your other less desired choices?
#138
So not having done this displacement thing before but likely to face it at some point as the next year plays out, here is my question.
Say I'm a EWR 737 Captain. My name is on a displacement letter. I WANT to stay an EWR 737 Captain but would choose EWR 787 FO if I can't hold it. In normal vacancy bidding you don't put in your current CAT/BES. In displacement bidding, is the ability to put your current seat to stay in it as first choice there followed by your other less desired choices?
Say I'm a EWR 737 Captain. My name is on a displacement letter. I WANT to stay an EWR 737 Captain but would choose EWR 787 FO if I can't hold it. In normal vacancy bidding you don't put in your current CAT/BES. In displacement bidding, is the ability to put your current seat to stay in it as first choice there followed by your other less desired choices?
#139
So not having done this displacement thing before but likely to face it at some point as the next year plays out, here is my question.
Say I'm a EWR 737 Captain. My name is on a displacement letter. I WANT to stay an EWR 737 Captain but would choose EWR 787 FO if I can't hold it. In normal vacancy bidding you don't put in your current CAT/BES. In displacement bidding, is the ability to put your current seat to stay in it as first choice there followed by your other less desired choices?
Say I'm a EWR 737 Captain. My name is on a displacement letter. I WANT to stay an EWR 737 Captain but would choose EWR 787 FO if I can't hold it. In normal vacancy bidding you don't put in your current CAT/BES. In displacement bidding, is the ability to put your current seat to stay in it as first choice there followed by your other less desired choices?
EWR,
There is a volunteer box on the CCS displacement bid screen. If you do not check that box, your bid will be bypassed in sequence if senior bidders takes them.
So you would enter EWR 787 F/O (and any other choices in order), then leave the volunteer box unchecked. At least that is the way it worked in prior displacements.
SP
#140
EWR,
There is a volunteer box on the CCS displacement bid screen. If you do not check that box, your bid will be bypassed in sequence if senior bidders takes them.
So you would enter EWR 787 F/O (and any other choices in order), then leave the volunteer box unchecked. At least that is the way it worked in prior displacements.
SP
There is a volunteer box on the CCS displacement bid screen. If you do not check that box, your bid will be bypassed in sequence if senior bidders takes them.
So you would enter EWR 787 F/O (and any other choices in order), then leave the volunteer box unchecked. At least that is the way it worked in prior displacements.
SP
Agreed, not very good for the company, but the contract is what it is.
Enforce your contract, insist on it!
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