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Old 04-16-2020, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 89Pistons
If they volunteered for a displacement they'd do it at the junior pilots seniority. Not their own. Get it?

yeah I get it but the post I responded to mentioned the parking of the 756 fleet......Get it?
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 89Pistons
........IOW, those 500 FO's you mentioned are pretty much stuck where they are at.
not if the 756 is retired.
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:08 PM
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The company will have to offer targeted early retirements for those with less than a year/two remaining on property (63+). This will help reduce necessity for future vacancy bids for a set period (year) and limit unnecessary upgrades during the huge displacement cycles that will last 6-9 months.
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
It’s always expensive and messy. The difference now is that we have expanded so fast that junior people are all over the place and displacements will eliminate overstaffed seats on all fleets. It’s still ugly, just not as much as during years past. Keeping thousands of us on the payroll with nothing to do isn’t exactly cheap either.
agreed.....furloughing is intentionally made difficult so the company doesn’t just fuurlougb 10% of the list every fall like they used to do in the 60s.
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
The company will have to offer targeted early retirements for those with less than a year/two on property. This will help reduce necessity for future vacancy bids for a set period (year) and limit unnecessary upgrades during the huge displacement cycles that will last 6-9 months.
either that or just decide to carry 1 extra pilot per retiring pilot in the same base/fleet/seat.
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
you need to follow AQP. It’s either an LDRQ or a RQ1 if you miss a CQ by greater than 3 months. Before you say just get a waiver.....there isn’t any curriculum built. The only thing that could help is getting a 12 month CQ waiver and landings extended to 120 days waiver.

the SRLs are not being kept current. If you bid an SRL you are expected to away from work for its entirety.
Instead of every 90 days, go to 90 days + 2 months

Pilots on E-SRL(s) for two or more consecutive Bid Periods, starting in May, may be required to attend a landings class or recurrent training during the E-SRL. Please see LOA 20-01 for additional details.
- For pilots with recurrent training in May and who are awarded an E-SRL, the Company will decide whether to keep or drop (without pay) the training. If the training is kept, the pilot will be paid for the recurrent training, in addition to the pay of the E-SRL hours.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
not if the 756 is retired.
The junior man chart will look much different once this starts. It doesn't stay the same.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
agreed.....furloughing is intentionally made difficult so the company doesn’t just fuurlougb 10% of the list every fall like they used to do in the 60s.
IMO they will furlough every pilot on probation as of Oct 1st... then another large chunk quarterly until demand improves.
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
Instead of every 90 days, go to 90 days + 2 months

Pilots on E-SRL(s) for two or more consecutive Bid Periods, starting in May, may be required to attend a landings class or recurrent training during the E-SRL. Please see LOA 20-01 for additional details.
- For pilots with recurrent training in May and who are awarded an E-SRL, the Company will decide whether to keep or drop (without pay) the training. If the training is kept, the pilot will be paid for the recurrent training, in addition to the pay of the E-SRL hours.
thanks for that I missed that in the LOA

Company could let landings lapse for as long as they want but after 90 days you are now NQ with pay. The company absolutely go that direction.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
either that or just decide to carry 1 extra pilot per retiring pilot in the same base/fleet/seat.
possible for sure...
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