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Old 04-17-2020, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Are those mandated by contract Seniority list instructors, or could mgmt turn around and hire furloughees as training instructor contractors?
must be a current and qualified line pilot.
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Old 04-17-2020, 03:41 PM
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must be a current and qualified line pilot.
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Old 04-17-2020, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by domino
I’d wager about 8000 will be gone, bankruptcy and eventually liquidation as AA and DL move in for the kill. Southwest will triple in size taking the guppies. Sounds strange, but we are in strange times indeed and about to see crazy stuff no one had even thought about.
I'll take that bet. 1 months pay?? No liquidation, mayybee Ch 11, 20-30% furloughed. So 13000 down to 9100 at most. What ya say domino??
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Old 04-17-2020, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CAL 73
I'll take that bet. 1 months pay?? No liquidation, mayybee Ch 11, 20-30% furloughed. So 13000 down to 9100 at most. What ya say domino??
I wager 3,000 pilots furloughed (retirements keep it from being 4,000). They park the 757, 767, and Airbus fleet to leave United with just 787s, 777s, and guppies. Keep taking deliveries of 737s and 787s. Then we buy JB or AS, even though we just got rid of all the Airbus planes, and we add a new fleet. The 3,000 furloughed pilots get to experience what it is like to be hired at United, furloughed, and then get an AS/JB FO with 2 years on the property who is 31 years old be senior to them for the next 34 years all of a sudden able to bid DEN, ORD, IAH ahead of them forever.
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:07 PM
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:31 PM
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Airline FED Bailout two coming before late summer. They will back airlines. Too big to fail interwoven in this nightmare.

We recover with some furloughs mitigated with ever increasing early retirement offers and continue SRL and ESRL as well as COLA.

Let’s hope we use our NB fleet to pickup all the regional failures and routes we can.

Gonna pickup before late summer but how much is anyone’s wag. God Speed!

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Old 04-21-2020, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by O2pilot
I wager 3,000 pilots furloughed (retirements keep it from being 4,000). They park the 757, 767, and Airbus fleet to leave United with just 787s, 777s, and guppies. Keep taking deliveries of 737s and 787s. Then we buy JB or AS, even though we just got rid of all the Airbus planes, and we add a new fleet. The 3,000 furloughed pilots get to experience what it is like to be hired at United, furloughed, and then get an AS/JB FO with 2 years on the property who is 31 years old be senior to them for the next 34 years all of a sudden able to bid DEN, ORD, IAH ahead of them forever.
I know you’re not a big fan of Jetblue, but what makes you think that a typical JB new-hire is any younger than someone starting at a Legacy carrier? Jetblue has many starting out that are well over 40 years old. You make it seem like they hire guys straight from CFI school with 1500 hours.
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Old 04-22-2020, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
I know you’re not a big fan of Jetblue, but what makes you think that a typical JB new-hire is any younger than someone starting at a Legacy carrier? Jetblue has many starting out that are well over 40 years old. You make it seem like they hire guys straight from CFI school with 1500 hours.
He’s not knocking JetBlue, he’s still bitter about the SLI from the merger. Cal guys are mad because they got screwed because the arbitrator didn’t use their integration proposal. The Ual guys are mad because they got screwed because the arbitrator did use their integration proposal. That’s one good thing about the SRL’s, I don’t have to hear people complain about an arranged marriage that happened 10 years ago.
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Originally Posted by O2pilot
I wager 3,000 pilots furloughed (retirements keep it from being 4,000). They park the 757, 767, and Airbus fleet to leave United with just 787s, 777s, and guppies. Keep taking deliveries of 737s and 787s. Then we buy JB or AS, even though we just got rid of all the Airbus planes, and we add a new fleet. The 3,000 furloughed pilots get to experience what it is like to be hired at United, furloughed, and then get an AS/JB FO with 2 years on the property who is 31 years old be senior to them for the next 34 years all of a sudden able to bid DEN, ORD, IAH ahead of them forever.



I will stick with the 1500 oct 1st and 125 per month staring Nov1st for 10 months and done
total 2750 and with the 750 or so retirements . We will close the book with 9600 pilots at 12/31/2021 and 585 aircraft maximum
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