Cosmo

Amen! I was a CAL furloughed member (1 of the 147) sacrificed to ensure we didn’t give up a 50 seat scope clause...which the union gave up on anyway.

My position now is very straight forward...pilots never forget. I don’t trust any “payment in the future” construct. The SRL was designed to support a reduced payroll need when called upon by tough financial times. I took the Apr SRL to avoid the virus. I felt it met a personal need as well as a business need for UAL.

For May I’ll likely take a reserve line for the following reasons

1) I have vacation in May. Why the company won’t pay out someone’s vacation credit in addition to SRL is BS...at least make it consistent with the MPG..or offer the vacation credit in another month. That vacation is something that is earned and is part of negotiated pay.

2) As mentioned in your post...I don’t see any other professional career offering these type of concessions. The relief act was passed to protect payrolls and avoid layoffs. I see small and medium sized business owners paying their employees and doing the right thing because they are enabled by this government money....why is United any different? These business owners are are also honoring stay at home orders and not finding ways around them. Protect our negotiated pay while respecting the laws of the states we reside in should be what they commit to for taking the money. Their loophole of calling us “essential” when 95% of the my flying has been cut is bull****.

3) The lineup of Reserves is insane. It’s a slim chance I’m called.

All that said. I’d gladly take a 50 hr SRL for future months to provide mutual benefit to protect myself, my family as well as help to curtail payroll costs for UAL...provided they didn’t ask employees to forfeit vacation and they paid the full 50 now and cut this kindergarten back and forth negotiating. Anything less, after now having payroll grants, is just the company playing us instead of treating us like valued employees.

baseball

All of those are good and valid points.

One thing I'd like to mention is that the joint venture flying LOA that the CAL MEC was threatened with to sign was more, so much more than just 50 seat RJ's. The RJ's were already on property. It was a total and complete abrogation of scope. It was unlimited. It could have also allowed a wet-lease scheme. It was really-really bad. if that LOA would have been signed for a 2% pay raise there would have been no leverage during the merger.

rp2pilot

That video highlights the new O2 mask rule ; both pilots must have space suit helmets on below 25,000'.

LeeFXDWG

Absolutely, a waiver of a normal qualification requirement doesn’t mean you have to participate.

We have folks across the spectrum on experience levels overall and in the current BES.

A one size fits all answer isn’t the proper one IMO. In fact, that’s why we have the ability to request proficiency flying now.

If one is getting to a point of not feeling comfortable, don’t roll over. Ask for the LDRQ.

I only wish I was as good as I was 25 years ago. I have more experience. And that helps me define my limitations.

Lee

bigfatdaddy

Well said Lee! I wish I had today’s experience 25 years ago when I was more gooder!

Al Czervik

55 hours of pay/mo just got 4,800 guys to take leave at AA.

Itsajob

It could be that they learned a lesson with this round. They had a good response for April at 50 hours and no delay, but came up very short for the May offerings.

Freight Dawg

I wouldn’t hold me breath......

Dicecal

Me either, would not surprise me to see displacements starting in June or sooner...

bigfatdaddy

The optimist in me says I hope not.....the pragmatist says that June or late May sounds about right for displacements.......here’s my fingers crossed for a sharp up turn in traffic!