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Old 03-18-2020, 07:45 PM
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I would jump on option one with military orders, as it wouldnt count against USERRA sanctuary time and would get me closer to a full retirement. Option 2 aside from just being immoral I’m pretty sure wouldn’t be legal under the same circumstances.

There’s nothing immoral or illegal about taking option 2 and going and doing mil duty.


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Old 03-18-2020, 08:31 PM
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There’s nothing immoral or illegal about taking option 2 and going and doing mil duty.


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The spirit of the program is to save the company money for the long term benefit of everyone. I personally wouldn't do it, especially with full time pay and bennies from the military. Plus it could be a dubious legal position at best if you're on orders over 29 days.
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Old 03-18-2020, 11:14 PM
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I can understand option 2 for Military leave, but that would depend on the definition of "maintaining currency". If it is simply maintaining minimum FAA currency as a pilot, that is one thing. If it means coming back every 90 days for a sim ride, and normal checkrides, then that might be hard on a military deployment.

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I can understand option 2 for Military leave, but that would depend on the definition of "maintaining currency". If it is simply maintaining minimum FAA currency as a pilot, that is one thing. If it means coming back every 90 days for a sim ride, and normal checkrides, then that might be hard on a military deployment.

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It's all in the fine print!

As you mentioned, would the company have the ability to 'keep you current'?

Nothing is EVER the same as the last time.
Many of the items of this CV19 shutdown are unprecedented. Which leaves the question to be asked- what will the restart look like?!

Nice to see the company 'mentioning' cargo flights.
At some point, this will pass. When, we don't know?
The other unknown is what the 'new norm' will look like.

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Old 03-19-2020, 01:45 PM
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It's all in the fine print!

As you mentioned, would the company have the ability to 'keep you current'?

Nothing is EVER the same as the last time.
Many of the items of this CV19 shutdown are unprecedented. Which leaves the question to be asked- what will the restart look like?!

Nice to see the company 'mentioning' cargo flights.
At some point, this will pass. When, we don't know?
The other unknown is what the 'new norm' will look like.

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let the banks loan Ual the money. I’m sick and tired of the poor management decisions( stock buybacks), and JP Morgan types always looking to labor as low hanging fruit. F that. They can bail out United. As far as our execs “working for free”, that’s all propaganda too. I’ll bet it’s less than 10% of their compensation package when all the shares are figured in. So, those boys at whq better get real before asking for a nickel from us. Rant off
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Old 03-19-2020, 03:48 PM
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let the banks loan Ual the money. I’m sick and tired of the poor management decisions( stock buybacks), and JP Morgan types always looking to labor as low hanging fruit. F that. They can bail out United. As far as our execs “working for free”, that’s all propaganda too. I’ll bet it’s less than 10% of their compensation package when all the shares are figured in. So, those boys at whq better get real before asking for a nickel from us. Rant off
That sums it up quite nicely. Right there with you and I am in the potential furlough range.
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Old 03-19-2020, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by joepilot
I can understand option 2 for Military leave, but that would depend on the definition of "maintaining currency". If it is simply maintaining minimum FAA currency as a pilot, that is one thing. If it means coming back every 90 days for a sim ride, and normal checkrides, then that might be hard on a military deployment.

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They don’t have to stay current option 2, this is paraphrasing and a misinterpretation of the actual wording.


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Old 03-19-2020, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
let the banks loan Ual the money. I’m sick and tired of the poor management decisions( stock buybacks), and JP Morgan types always looking to labor as low hanging fruit. F that. They can bail out United. As far as our execs “working for free”, that’s all propaganda too. I’ll bet it’s less than 10% of their compensation package when all the shares are figured in. So, those boys at whq better get real before asking for a nickel from us. Rant off
Yup! They took the lions share of our profits that prevented us from stock piling our rainy day fund... they can cough it back up to secure their investment.
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Old 03-19-2020, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
I would jump on option one with military orders, as it wouldnt count against USERRA sanctuary time and would get me closer to a full retirement. Option 2 aside from just being immoral I’m pretty sure wouldn’t be legal under the same circumstances.
Yes, it's legal. An AD servicemember can have another job... as long as it doesn't interfere with military responsibilities. Getting paid to do nothing would qualify as not interfering.
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Old 03-19-2020, 11:10 PM
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If pilots are furloughed and you're collecting an SRL paycheck while cashing a full time mil paycheck with your brothers on the street, you need your head examined
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