Chance of furlough?
03-02-2020, 07:11 PM
#21
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I know an easy way to avoid a mainline furlough. Up-gauge across the entire network. Hand current 70 seat RJ routes to 319s/-700s, and 50 seat routes to ERJ-175s. Park all the CRJ-200s/ERJ-145s for maintenance or forever. Give RJ guys paid vacations so they can polish up their resumes, which would probably be cheaper than paying yet more widebody guys 50 hours a month to sit. I know it won't happen, but on the surface it would be a nice win-win.
03-02-2020, 07:19 PM
#22
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in 2008 the company went for frequency over volume. Regionals exploded. I’m with Laz I hope the company goes with volume and decreases frequency. The 50s can die, the airports wil be less congested and our pax will be happier.
03-02-2020, 08:07 PM
#23
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this is not 2008. The 1437 would have been significantly less if the same day the markets collapsed they didn’t announce that everyone gets 5 more years at the top.
03-02-2020, 09:20 PM
#24
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Short of an outright domestic commercial air shutdown do you think Spirit/Frontier/Allegiant/SWA are going to have to park anything? (MAX excluded) I think not. UAL is going to feel more pain from this bug than any other U.S. carrier until things get back to normal. Might as well use what tools we've got on hand to project some of that pain onto our competitors. But you can rest easy, management is not going to ask for my opinion and I don't have SK on speed dial.
03-02-2020, 11:33 PM
#25
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other regionals? Or did you already work at United or Continental, and were disconnected from what was really going on? Or, did you mean 1998?
03-03-2020, 01:19 AM
#26
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I would say the probability of a pilot furlough is 70% within the next 6 months.
Of course I wish the opposite. I think the irrationality of the human response to the virus has indicated the need to change the UAL business model, UAL has excessive risk and thus a contraction is likely.
The economic damage the governmental response and news media have created is significant.
Time will tell...
Of course I wish the opposite. I think the irrationality of the human response to the virus has indicated the need to change the UAL business model, UAL has excessive risk and thus a contraction is likely.
The economic damage the governmental response and news media have created is significant.
Time will tell...
03-03-2020, 02:27 AM
#27
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Posts: 395
I would say the probability of a pilot furlough is 70% within the next 6 months.
Of course I wish the opposite. I think the irrationality of the human response to the virus has indicated the need to change the UAL business model, UAL has excessive risk and thus a contraction is likely.
The economic damage the governmental response and news media have created is significant.
Time will tell...
Of course I wish the opposite. I think the irrationality of the human response to the virus has indicated the need to change the UAL business model, UAL has excessive risk and thus a contraction is likely.
The economic damage the governmental response and news media have created is significant.
Time will tell...
03-03-2020, 03:15 AM
#28
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Aside from the 35% decline in stock price since the 2019 peak, I'm not sure I can. How do you quantify paranoia, irrational governmental policy, hysteria, a news media that instead of reporting about science and medicine report based on their own need to maximize profit and to fulfill their biased political agenda?
I'm don't know of a way to quantify stupidity and insanity, other than measuring the havoc and destruction it creates after the fact.
I'm don't know of a way to quantify stupidity and insanity, other than measuring the havoc and destruction it creates after the fact.
03-03-2020, 03:43 AM
#30
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What? In 2008 the regional I worked for furloughed over 300+ pilots and displaced over 150+ Captains back to FO. So explain your logic.....or was it that you worked for a Catfish regional at the time? Already on the bottom, willing to swim further down with all the pilot fish at your company opining for a deeper and deeper level of concession against other regionals to supposedly “win” more flying from
other regionals? Or did you already work at United or Continental, and were disconnected from what was really going on? Or, did you mean 1998?
other regionals? Or did you already work at United or Continental, and were disconnected from what was really going on? Or, did you mean 1998?
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