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Old 03-07-2020, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Thor
With SARS the total global death toll was 774, according to CDC. You can understand the urgency to contain with the rapid spread of COVID.
I can’t understand it, no. But then again I’ve been accused of not being able to see the big picture.

To date there are 334 cases in the US. And a handful of deaths, all from immuno-suppressed and geriatric individuals.

The reaction will at the very least put the entire globe in a significant recession, causing much more damage than the virus would even if attempts to control it were removed.

The overreaction and hysteria will significantly damage the economy for years. Unemployment, poverty, social problems, cut back on services and benefits.

It seems less damaging to quarantine those that are high risk then for the entire economy to get turned upside down.

I have little doubt the reaction will damage millions and millions of people significantly. Compare that to ~3,000 deaths of people in poor health anyway, most of whom are already near the end of their lifespan?

I’m definitely not getting the big picture.
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Old 03-07-2020, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
Yellow airplanes are still full. Just finished a 4 day and every flight was full.
If you're so happy driving your school bus why the hell are you trolling a UA forum with intent to bust moral? You clearly do not love where you are at otherwise you wouldn't be here trying to poke the bear.
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Old 03-07-2020, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter
I can’t understand it, no. But then again I’ve been accused of not being able to see the big picture.

To date there are 334 cases in the US. And a handful of deaths, all from immuno-suppressed and geriatric...
Ok boomer.
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Old 03-07-2020, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Thor
With SARS the total global death toll was 774, according to CDC. You can understand the urgency to contain with the rapid spread of COVID.


Untrue-entirely. Your a worry wort. 1,000,000,000-1 this is hype, less lethal and will be a non-issue within 6 months.

Don’t worry my friend. The damage is done. We will struggle for loads to come back. You can keep your stress level high.

Nothing we employees can do.
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Old 03-07-2020, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by fishn
If you're so happy driving your school bus why the hell are you trolling a UA forum with intent to bust moral? You clearly do not love where you are at otherwise you wouldn't be here trying to poke the bear.
A yellow plane driver explained it to me that their pilot group is deeply infected with inferiority complexes. This is how they feel better about their decision to remain yellow.
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Old 03-07-2020, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
A yellow plane driver explained it to me that their pilot group is deeply infected with inferiority complexes. This is how they feel better about their decision to remain yellow.
A full yellow airplane means an empty trailer park.
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Old 03-07-2020, 08:19 AM
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A full yellow airplane means an empty trailer park.
Didn’t know commercial air travel was only for those with single family homes...I’m learning so much today!
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Old 03-07-2020, 08:34 AM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/sout...th-rate-2020-3
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Old 03-07-2020, 09:03 AM
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interesting. Thanks for the link
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Old 03-07-2020, 09:34 AM
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Since the Company announced the current reduction in flying due to the corona virus, we've received many questions regarding furloughs. Currently, the short-term reduction in flying is causing multiple categories to be overstaffed. The Company has many contractual tools available to mitigate short term overstaffing situations including additional monthly vacation awards, COLAs, surplus reduction lines, lower LPA (line production averages), vacancy cancellations, etc.

Does this mean the Company is planning a furlough? No, and the Company is being aggressive to prevent them.

For furloughs to occur, the Company must consider the high cost of the contract implications listed below and the amount of time it takes to displace and re-train pilots down through the system to eventually furlough from the bottom of the list. The same process applies when recalling- they must slowly bid and re-train all those pilots back up the ladder. This process is difficult by design and is an extremely expensive and cumbersome process that the Company does not undertake lightly. The Company would need to project that this overstaffing situation would last a significant period of time for a furlough to be seriously considered. Otherwise, it's cheaper and more efficient to carry the extra pilots than it is to go through the expense of furlough and recall.

In addition to the high cost of displacement, we have many items in our contract that discourage the Company from furloughing pilots.

The following are the numerous contractual provisions protecting our pilots from furlough:
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