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Old 03-05-2020, 05:51 AM
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What do the masses say about the fact that American and Delta haven’t changed a thing?


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We have a much larger Asian exposure than they do. We are going to take a bigger hit, and our response will therefore be different.
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Old 03-05-2020, 06:04 AM
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We have a much larger Asian exposure than they do. We are going to take a bigger hit, and our response will therefore be different.


Absolutely. Still their domestic loads will take a hit getting their pax from Punxsutawney to a hub to codeshare elsewhere.


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No sheet! The planes are empty and when you get there, the tourist lines are non existent. It’s wonderful. I haven’t seen prime opportunities like this since the Fall of 2001! Aloha


Spot on! If I wasn’t consolidating I’d be all over a 50 hr line. And to think many have recently complained about the lack of seats for family/friends to make. What an opportunity to travel!

This thread has great segments however, it’s a lot like the virus event itself. Lots of emotion. Drink up and chillax all. Ain’t nuttin we can do except hope for da best. We are all still with a great company.


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Originally Posted by Itsajob
We have a much larger Asian exposure than they do. We are going to take a bigger hit, and our response will therefore be different.
^This

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Originally Posted by Hilltopper89
What do the masses say about the fact that American and Delta haven’t changed a thing?


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This whole thing is fluid so by the time I’m done writing this post, we may be in a different world. But: 12% of United’s revenue is Asia. 3% at AA. That 12% obviously translates into domestic connections as well. Those now idle Wide bodies are being allocated to domestic transcons I believe, which makes some of the NBs redundant. Cheaper to park a 757 than a 787. Basically the trickle-down from the huge Asia exposure compared to AA and DAL is why you’re seeing UAL lead the charge in cuts. Add in that AA still has 612 pilots to retire this year starting from today, 778 next year, and that number only goes up, might explain why we aren’t offering leave. Again, a fluid situation so this analysis may not age well.
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This whole thing is fluid so by the time I’m done writing this post, we may be in a different world. But: 12% of United’s revenue is Asia. 3% at AA. That 12% obviously translates into domestic connections as well. Those now idle Wide bodies are being allocated to domestic transcons I believe, which makes some of the NBs redundant. Cheaper to park a 757 then a 787. Basically the trickle-down from the huge Asia exposure compared to AA and DAL is why you’re seeing UAL lead the charge in cuts. Add in that AA still has 612 pilots to retire this year starting from today, 778 next year, and that number only goes up, might explain why we aren’t offering leave. Again, a fluid situation so this analysis may not age well.
We’ll see if this will be a wake up call that our domestic network needs upgrading. And I don’t mean with more jumbo Rj’s.
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Originally Posted by Hilltopper89
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Just commuted on them for a routine delta hub to hub I do. Flight is usually full. 737-9 had 25 seats filled last night. Give them a week or less, they'll follow suit.
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Old 03-05-2020, 08:59 AM
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Sounds not too comforting sitting at the bottom rite now. Amazing how two weeks ago I was stoked now I feel like life has yet again been sucked out.
I feel your pain. 9/11 I had just a few months in at United needless to say the outcome wasn't good. Looking up at over 2,000 pilots in front of me to be recalled sucked, but this isn't even close to 9/11. Any furlough would probably be small and short. With over 500 retirements a year it probably would not be cost effective to furlough so there probably won't be any furloughs.
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I feel your pain. 9/11 I had just a few months in at United needless to say the outcome wasn't good. Looking up at over 2,000 pilots in front of me to be recalled sucked, but this isn't even close to 9/11. Any furlough would probably be small and short. With over 500 retirements a year it probably would not be cost effective to furlough so there probably won't be any furloughs.

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Old 03-05-2020, 11:42 PM
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We’ll see if this will be a wake up call that our domestic network needs upgrading. And I don’t mean with more jumbo Rj’s.
With 2.3% annual 2019 GDP growth and 1T annual deficits, our government is ill equipped to handle this crisis. Oscar is smart to reduce so aggressively. Best just to embrace the suck.
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