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Old 03-01-2020, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BMEP100
Completely different management, top to bottom.
Still a complete dick move, how much is this multi billion dollar company saving by doing it? I’m sure the guys with young kids are thrilled about having no health insurance tomorrow.
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Old 03-01-2020, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BMEP100
Completely different management, top to bottom.
Sure, but looks like the same playbook.
Hope the best for the pilots affected. I know one of the 2008 guys, it did not end well for him.
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Old 03-01-2020, 06:10 PM
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Shame. Great legacy UAL management, will be talked about for 20 years.
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Old 03-01-2020, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck D
The odds aren't unreasonable... Trump's got a sister Judge. I know a sort of crazy number of highly successful sibling pairs. But ooh, let's ignore things like, you know, China literally decimating their economy, closures and cancellations and quarantines in every single country where it's getting detected.

Yeah it's the flu exactly like the bird flu, the swine flu and the regular old flu (that's sarcasm btw). These are still early days but so far it seems more contagious and more deadly by a good bit than the "regular old" flu, but with sizable numbers of people who show little indications but are contagious... plus we're not even really testing much for it yet. Fast moving target it seems. So who do you go to for guidance? The CDC, The WHO, other groups of doctors and scientists, or someone who literally has politicized every single thing possible for personal gain and a guy he gave a medal of freedom to? Rhetorical question... no need to reply.

Just to clear something up, it was the minority leader and speaker who threw out the first political rhetoric on this. The POTUS counterpunches, like he has literally every single time in the last 4 years. And I’m not even counting them calling him racist for putting travel restrictions weeks ago. As far as the doctor’s statement, I think it was just sloppy wording. Unless she is God, she doesn’t know anything is for certain. I think she meant to say that the probability is high. And that’s pretty much what POTUS said, nothing is certain. It may happen, or may be bad or it may not be as bad.

The mortality rate, instead of how contagious, is what we should be more concerned of because without people actually dying at a rate significantly higher than the flu, then it’s more like the flu than anything else. The fact that they aren’t able to test as much, as you point out (and there may be many who never get tested because they simply think the have the common flu), should tell us that we don’t know the real mortality rate. If anything, there are many more that have been infected that we don’t know about, which would make the actual mortality lower.

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Old 03-01-2020, 06:56 PM
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I don't consider this a move by MSM to oust Trump. I don't want this to go down that path.

It is obvious that UAL management has an idea or evidence that this is going to be bigger than it is already. Drying up the training pipeline against all indicators that show a need for hiring despite limiting service to specific regions of the world is quite a bit concerning, no?

I don't think the repercussions would be that high to stop new pilots from coming on board to stop any sort of retiring attrition and the current needs to keep the domestic operation smoothly running.

Someone is spooked big time.
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Old 03-01-2020, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BMEP100
Completely different management, top to bottom.
Different management... same playbook. 23 professionals (your peers) just got treated like the babysitter. Every pilot deserves better than 3 days notice. I am appalled at how United handled this. Everyone involved with this can GTFO and we will be better for it.
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Originally Posted by navigatro
good lord, there are some serious nut jobs out there.
Yep. And you'll be sharing a cockpit with them. When they shouldn't even be in one in the first place.

Chew on THAT one.
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Old 03-01-2020, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus
Different management... same playbook. 23 professionals (your peers) just got treated like the babysitter. Every pilot deserves better than 3 days notice. I am appalled at how United handled this.
This. If the economy doesn’t go down the toilet, potential hires should heed how UAL is treating these guys. I’d be very hesitant to go to a company that treats people like that...
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Originally Posted by iceman21
I don't consider this a move by MSM to oust Trump. I don't want this to go down that path.

It is obvious that UAL management has an idea or evidence that this is going to be bigger than it is already. Drying up the training pipeline against all indicators that show a need for hiring despite limiting service to specific regions of the world is quite a bit concerning, no?

I don't think the repercussions would be that high to stop new pilots from coming on board to stop any sort of retiring attrition and the current needs to keep the domestic operation smoothly running.

Someone is spooked big time.
part of the problem is they already hired for the MAX that won’t be back tell September. This cold and the mass hysteria that the human race is all so good at creating compounded the issue.
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Originally Posted by IAFDOF
This. If the economy doesn’t go down the toilet, potential hires should heed how UAL is treating these guys. I’d be very hesitant to go to a company that treats people like that...
yea, I am sure you would turn them down if they offered you a job.
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