Surplus lines for April at United
#11
Phase One: Stagnation, displacements, widespread voluntary reduced lines, and low credit lines for rest. Probably some parked airplanes. Lots of used Teslas and boats for sale.
If Phase one is not enough, then...
Phase Two: All the above plus furloughs if it looks like it's gonna be a long term downturn. Luckily UAL has lots of retirements so the "furlough math" favors letting attrition do the work. Even more parked airplanes. Vacation properties on the block.
And if it really gets bad...
Phase Three: Bankruptcy or threats of bankruptcy. All bets are off and the specifics all depend upon the circumstances, both internal and external. Lots of furloughs and potential pay cuts. Spike in divorces and suicides.
If Phase one is not enough, then...
Phase Two: All the above plus furloughs if it looks like it's gonna be a long term downturn. Luckily UAL has lots of retirements so the "furlough math" favors letting attrition do the work. Even more parked airplanes. Vacation properties on the block.
And if it really gets bad...
Phase Three: Bankruptcy or threats of bankruptcy. All bets are off and the specifics all depend upon the circumstances, both internal and external. Lots of furloughs and potential pay cuts. Spike in divorces and suicides.
#12
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 255
Phase One: Stagnation, displacements, widespread voluntary reduced lines, and low credit lines for rest. Probably some parked airplanes. Lots of used Teslas and boats for sale.
If Phase one is not enough, then...
Phase Two: All the above plus furloughs if it looks like it's gonna be a long term downturn. Luckily UAL has lots of retirements so the "furlough math" favors letting attrition do the work. Even more parked airplanes. Vacation properties on the block.
And if it really gets bad...
Phase Three: Bankruptcy or threats of bankruptcy. All bets are off and the specifics all depend upon the circumstances, both internal and external. Lots of furloughs and potential pay cuts. Spike in divorces and suicides.
If Phase one is not enough, then...
Phase Two: All the above plus furloughs if it looks like it's gonna be a long term downturn. Luckily UAL has lots of retirements so the "furlough math" favors letting attrition do the work. Even more parked airplanes. Vacation properties on the block.
And if it really gets bad...
Phase Three: Bankruptcy or threats of bankruptcy. All bets are off and the specifics all depend upon the circumstances, both internal and external. Lots of furloughs and potential pay cuts. Spike in divorces and suicides.
#14
lets not forget we have been cancelling flights ahead of schedule for almost a year due to the max. Why isn’t that flying somehow being supplemented now with the airframes sitting around.
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#16
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Joined APC: Jan 2020
Posts: 215
exactly. Warmer weather will kill off the virus, the media won’t have the numbers to spin it into a global zombie apocalypse pandemic and people will travel again.
lets not forget we have been cancelling flights ahead of schedule for almost a year due to the max. Why isn’t that flying somehow being supplemented now with the airframes sitting around.
lets not forget we have been cancelling flights ahead of schedule for almost a year due to the max. Why isn’t that flying somehow being supplemented now with the airframes sitting around.
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 166
Exactly! This whole thing is being overblown and as a result, many of us will probably be on the street again at some point in the not so distant future. Gotta love the media/social media nowadays. The sky is always falling!
#19
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: Tom’s Whipping boy.
Posts: 1,182
The novel coronavirus can likely live up to 96 hours on phone screens
Katherine Ellen FoleyFebruary 28, 2020Most cases of Covid-19 are mild—but it travels quickly. Luckily, the best way to prevent spreading it is pretty simple: Keep good hygiene. Scrub your hands for at least 20 seconds frequently, cover your nose and mouth when you cough, and try to avoid contact with others you know are sick.These techniques work because tiny droplets from coughing and sneezing can carry the novel coronavirus as far as three to six feet (or one to two meters). If they happen to make it into another person’s airways, they could become infected.
But the virus can also likely live on the surfaces these droplets touch, sometimes for multiple days, says Rudra Channappanavar, an immunologist who has studied coronaviruses at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center. Glass in particular—like the kind on screen of the smartphone you’re probably reading this on—can harbor live coronaviruses for up to 96 hours, or four days at room temperature.
These estimates come from data collected during the 2003 SARS outbreak and reported to the World Health Organization. The two viruses are genetic cousins: Both infect our airways, have a single strand of genetic material, called RNA, and have proteins protruding from their shells. The virus behind the SARS outbreak is technically named SARS-CoV; the new virus is SARS-CoV-2.
In theory, it’d be pretty easy to pick up the novel coronavirus from your phone screen. If someone coughed or sneezed near your phone on your morning commute while you were scrolling through social media, you could inadvertently touch that droplet and then touch your nose or mouth.
Most people touch their phones and faces a lot: One study conducted by the research firm Dscout found that, in a group of 94, the average person picked up their phone 2,600 times per day. They also spent extended time on it (scrolling, checking emails) 76 times per day. Another small study from researchers at the University of New South Wales in Australia found that people touch their face about 23 times per hour, or 368 times during their waking hours. This study only tracked 26 college students, but still: It’s a pretty common habit most of us do without thinking.
Gross phone screens and other surfaces are nothing new. We’re constantly exposed to viruses and bacteria on everything—and for the most part they don’t make us sick. But it’s worth remembering where these pesky microbes can live, particularly in times when infections are common. Channappanavar says that if there’s ever a time when you pick up an infection like Covid-19 without any known exposure to it, it’s likely that you got it from one of these surfaces.
Thankfully, there’s an easy solution: Clean the surfaces around you. Apple recommends cleaning phone surfaces with a microfiber cloth slightly damp with soapy water. You can also use face wipes or baby wipes, or a solution of half water and half rubbing alcohol—just avoid any openings. UV lights will also kill most viruses bacteria on surfaces, but those cost about $60.
If you’re still worried, remember: It can’t hurt to wash your hands more, and touch your face less.
#20
My wife works at UCSD Hospital, where they bring the San Diego corona virus patients. She said in their briefing that they’re expecting the numbers to drop this summer before surging in the fall. For what that’s worth. She said a lot more but I probably auto blocked half of that out 😂