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Old 02-29-2020, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by F15andMD11
So are you saying 787s and 777 can't fly domestically? Are you saying that only NB aircraft can fly transcons? No...wide bodies fly many domestic lines daily and can easily fly more.
Eventually a "stop the madness" realization will occur when the virus spreads further in Europe and the US. What are we all going to stop riding our subways, buses, trains and flights?? Nope, not going to happen. Transportation will have to continue!
He's saying there will be no demand for them.

Domestic passenger bookings are taking a hit. If it spreads domestically they will get hit harder.
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Old 02-29-2020, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by F15andMD11
So are you saying 787s and 777 can't fly domestically? Are you saying that only NB aircraft can fly transcons? No...wide bodies fly many domestic lines daily and can easily fly more.
Eventually a "stop the madness" realization will occur when the virus spreads further in Europe and the US. What are we all going to stop riding our subways, buses, trains and flights?? Nope, not going to happen. Transportation will have to continue!
Twenty five years ago it was almost all widebodies flying transcons, maybe we’re coming full circle.
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Old 02-29-2020, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by F15andMD11
So are you saying 787s and 777 can't fly domestically? Are you saying that only NB aircraft can fly transcons? No...wide bodies fly many domestic lines daily and can easily fly more.
Eventually a "stop the madness" realization will occur when the virus spreads further in Europe and the US. What are we all going to stop riding our subways, buses, trains and flights?? Nope, not going to happen. Transportation will have to continue!
Domestic competition in the US will soon increase as wide bodies coming into the picture. Mainline fighting against the LCCs -- LCCs may have the advantage in the looks of cost structure, which in turn will create downward pressure for ticket prices. Conferences and major events will cancel with a severe breakout of the virus, which will directly impact business travel.
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Old 03-01-2020, 10:06 AM
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Domestic competition in the US will soon increase as wide bodies coming into the picture. Mainline fighting against the LCCs -- LCCs may have the advantage in the looks of cost structure, which in turn will create downward pressure for ticket prices. Conferences and major events will cancel with a severe breakout of the virus, which will directly impact business travel.
The legacies have the advantage of a diverse fleet and much deeper pockets. The aircraft that are freed up due to Asian route suspensions can be redeployed elsewhere. This can also free up other fleets who have been pushed to the limits due to the max grounding to get some TLC in the hangar. This virus is being hyped into a much bigger deal than it actually is, but it is going to have a significant impact on airline travel. At the end of the day, the legacies can bleed cash much longer than a LCC. This is just a break in the show. Regular programming will return soon enough.
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Old 03-01-2020, 01:37 PM
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Domestic competition in the US will soon increase as wide bodies coming into the picture. Mainline fighting against the LCCs -

If I were a betting man...and I do play the mega millions when it gets over 200 million(because who wants to win 50?). I’d keep a close watch on Frontier. Their growth the past 3 or so years has been almost exclusively due to getting in bed with apple vacations...:and that’s the first place that seems to get hit. alas USA3000 and before them Trans Meridian....
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Amazon has stopped all nonessential employee travel, international and domestic. Expect others to follow suit this week. There isn't gonna be anyone to fill those widebodies.
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