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Mexico I understand has a national seniority list. The electrician union would never make a master electrician start over at a new company at apprentice wages.
True Flow? I've always find it ironic we could carry United's passengers on our metal, and not get hired by United. Heck, they own 49% of us and the planes. But we're not "good enough". Our metrics and safety record say differently. Not a p contest, just data.
As for cutting scope, that's naturally occurring. We have 40-50 airplanes on property or inbound from TSA we can't staff. TSA as I understood it couldn't staff. Part of it can be answered thusly: how many young people do you even know that CARE that you're an airline pilot, much less want to become one?
At our height we had 210 jets, now last I heard we operate around 80. And that's after combining our pilot group with ASA. It would be interesting to compute how many regional pilots there are now vs. say 2007 or so. My feeling is saying scope is naturally being handled but I haven't done the math.
True Flow? I've always find it ironic we could carry United's passengers on our metal, and not get hired by United. Heck, they own 49% of us and the planes. But we're not "good enough". Our metrics and safety record say differently. Not a p contest, just data.
As for cutting scope, that's naturally occurring. We have 40-50 airplanes on property or inbound from TSA we can't staff. TSA as I understood it couldn't staff. Part of it can be answered thusly: how many young people do you even know that CARE that you're an airline pilot, much less want to become one?
At our height we had 210 jets, now last I heard we operate around 80. And that's after combining our pilot group with ASA. It would be interesting to compute how many regional pilots there are now vs. say 2007 or so. My feeling is saying scope is naturally being handled but I haven't done the math.
-36 Inbound XR’s from TSA (once XJT flown 5 yrs ago)
-XJT once flew 258+ planes on the legacy side alone. The airline has only shrunk since.
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Mainline management negotiates scope with mainline pilots.
Mainline management and mainline pilots decide they don’t want to operate themselves with their own pilots.
Whatever isn’t scoped in by that negotiations is now parsed out to regional management by mainline management, aka as whipsaw.
Regional management bid on the flying.
Lowest bidding regional management wins.
Regional management negotiates with regional pilots for that flying.
In other words, the only negotiations done by regional pilots is for flying that mainline pilots couldn’t/wouldn’t scope in.
Therefore, no conflict of interest between mainline and regional pilots of the same or different union.
There were 274 EMB145s at XJT until 9/2009, to be more precise.
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It will be interesting to see how some of our furlough protections are applied. If we furlough deep enough (1/23/2016), some expensive provisions kick in. The 76 seat jets have to be reconfigured to 70 seats, and the companies operating those jets have to hire our furloughed pilots at 2nd year pay. It will be hard for them to hire our pilots when they are potentially looking at furloughs too.
The insides are already United, it’s literally going to be a matter of removing 6 seats and respacing the remaining seats. The tracks run the entire length of the cabin. Pop a few bolts and the seats will slide. We are talking maybe a day or two with in house MX to reconfigure a single plane. Sure it will be a nuisance, but I doubt it will be of great expense. If anything, that expense will be realized as lower profits for United with the reduction of 6 seats.
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Which makes them higher CASM (by 8%) and the same fixed/variable operating costs. With 10-15% loads now and 20-30% for the foreseeable future this all will make them uncompetitive with 50 seat flying, not withstanding SKs townhall comments. He wants them to replace mainline NB flying. Economics rule, and I don’t think we’ve seen the end of the 50 seaters if we start ripping seats out of Embraer larger RJs.
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Which makes them higher CASM (by 8%) and the same fixed/variable operating costs. With 10-15% loads now and 20-30% for the foreseeable future this all will make them uncompetitive with 50 seat flying, not withstanding SKs townhall comments. He wants them to replace mainline NB flying. Economics rule, and I don’t think we’ve seen the end of the 50 seaters if we start ripping seats out of Embraer larger RJs.
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My guess is that the company is going to use this to clean up the operation. People hate the CRJ 200 and the E145, and for good reason. Unless your paycheck comes from flying them, they won’t be missed. The customer reviews on the CRJ 550 are actually pretty positive. As demand returns we’ll probably see reduced frequency, but on larger planes. Instead of 5 flights on a 50 seater, you may see 3 on a 76 seat jet. Routes like my commute could go from 8 flights on 76 seaters to 4-5 on a NB.
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The only problem is that UA is scoped out with larger jets.
I seriously doubt that UA will just park all 50 seater without a replacement. That means some form of scope relief or UA pilots fly them.
My sense was that the MEC was cooking up something that would give SK more 76 seaters at the regionals in exchange for JV protection or something like that.
that was all before this debacle though.
I seriously doubt that UA will just park all 50 seater without a replacement. That means some form of scope relief or UA pilots fly them.
My sense was that the MEC was cooking up something that would give SK more 76 seaters at the regionals in exchange for JV protection or something like that.
that was all before this debacle though.
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