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Old 02-16-2020, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Galaxy5
California can make your wildest dreams come true. Mine was withheld at ~43%.
Big Deal. It's withholding, not the tax rate. Another person that doesn't understand this!!
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Old 02-16-2020, 11:04 AM
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I wish my marginal federal tax rate was only 22%. I was in the 28% federal tax bracket during the Bush and Obama years. Now for the same income, Trump’s tax package pushed me into a 32% effective rate. Oh yea, and I lost a ton of writeoffs (SALT cap, union dues, per diem differential, etc...).

I live in CA and my effective CA state tax rate is 5.5%. I have no problem with my state taking 5.5% of my total income. But the federal government taking 32% of each extra dollar I earn is crap. Thanks for the tax hike GOP.
32% is your effective rate or is that your tax bracket?
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Old 02-16-2020, 11:48 AM
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I live in IL and I’m not seeing anything crazy on the withholding.
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
Big Deal. It's withholding, not the tax rate. Another person that doesn't understand this!!
since it’s not a big deal, let me borrow some money at 0% interest until next Jan/Feb because that is essentially what you are doing by allowing them to withhold more than what you are going to owe.

Anyone who “likes” getting a refund come tax time is an idiot who loves lending the government money for free.

Better plan is to project your tax liability for the year and then adjust your normal withholdings to get some of that money back throughout the year. I would much rather write a 500-1000 check every year and take advantage of the interest free loan for my own benefit than have the government do the same to me.
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gollum
since it’s not a big deal, let me borrow some money at 0% interest until next Jan/Feb because that is essentially what you are doing by allowing them to withhold more than what you are going to owe.

Anyone who “likes” getting a refund come tax time is an idiot who loves lending the government money for free.
you can claim more exemptions on you W4 to make up for it in your regular paycheck.

you can even underwithold and have the government lend you money.

it can all be done with a little bit of planning.
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
Big Deal. It's withholding, not the tax rate. Another person that doesn't understand this!!
No?

My effective tax rate for 2019 is a shade under 9%, add in CASDI at another .5% or so after I hit the cap and I’ll have paid about 9.3%. Using that as this year’s number, my PS was withheld at 10.3% in income tax and 1% CASDI, so the state took 11.3%. Using 2019 numbers, when I file, that 2% of my PS withheld over my effective tax rate will be returned to me. Yeah?
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
32% is your effective rate or is that your tax bracket?
32% is my marginal rate. Each additional dollar I make is taxed at 32% federal rate. It was 28% under Bush/Obama. I’m in the one area of the tax code where not only did my total taxes go up (thanks to loss of writeoffs for SALT dedication, union dues, and per diem differential), but my marginal rate went up as well. So much for a “tax cut”. More like a tax hike.
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
32% is my marginal rate. Each additional dollar I make is taxed at 32% federal rate. It was 28% under Bush/Obama. I’m in the one area of the tax code where not only did my total taxes go up (thanks to loss of writeoffs for SALT dedication, union dues, and per diem differential), but my marginal rate went up as well. So much for a “tax cut”. More like a tax hike.
How did you manage 5.5% in state taxes in CA?
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
32% is my marginal rate. Each additional dollar I make is taxed at 32% federal rate. It was 28% under Bush/Obama. I’m in the one area of the tax code where not only did my total taxes go up (thanks to loss of writeoffs for SALT dedication, union dues, and per diem differential), but my marginal rate went up as well. So much for a “tax cut”. More like a tax hike.
List your adjusted gross income (line 8b of 2019 1040), federal taxable income (line 11b on 2019 1040) and your total tax (line 16 on 2019 1040). Then list the same numbers for 2009-2018 taxes. I don't believe you.
Sounds like your income rose significantly since Obama and so you have to pay more taxes. You are now choosing to blame those additional taxes on Trump rather than an increase in income.
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
I wish my marginal federal tax rate was only 22%. I was in the 28% federal tax bracket during the Bush and Obama years. Now for the same income, Trump’s tax package pushed me into a 32% effective rate. Oh yea, and I lost a ton of writeoffs (SALT cap, union dues, per diem differential, etc...).

I live in CA and my effective CA state tax rate is 5.5%. I have no problem with my state taking 5.5% of my total income. But the federal government taking 32% of each extra dollar I earn is crap. Thanks for the tax hike GOP.
The top of the 28% bracket for single filer in 2017 was $191,650 and using that amount in the 10/15/25/28% brackets you would owe $46.6 in taxes.

Using that same $191,650 and the 2018 single filer tax brackets of 10/12/22/24/32% you would only owe $43Kin taxes, so $3.6K less for the same amount of income.
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