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Old 12-29-2019, 06:58 AM
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Hi everyone,

I know that the average TT/TPIC/part 121 time upon hire has probably been answered already, but I was wondering if you guys would be able to give me your thoughts on my situation.

I’m currently in the process of converting my Canadian ATPL to an FAA ATP (before you ask, yes I am a US citizen) and I’m wondering how low my expectations of getting a call back from United or any major airline for that matter should be? I currently have around 3000TT, 1500 Turbine, 500TPIC and a degree. I don’t have any part 121 time as I’ve only flown for Canadian airlines.

Basically I’m wondering what the average TT at hire is and how important the part 121 and 1000 TPIC is to getting passed the initial screening? Depending on which is important, would you suggest staying in Canada and building more TPIC or going to a regional for a couple years to gain some part 121 time?

Thanks in advance for the insight!
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Dvickersdrennan
Hi everyone,

I know that the average TT/TPIC/part 121 time upon hire has probably been answered already, but I was wondering if you guys would be able to give me your thoughts on my situation.

I’m currently in the process of converting my Canadian ATPL to an FAA ATP (before you ask, yes I am a US citizen) and I’m wondering how low my expectations of getting a call back from United or any major airline for that matter should be? I currently have around 3000TT, 1500 Turbine, 500TPIC and a degree. I don’t have any part 121 time as I’ve only flown for Canadian airlines.

Basically I’m wondering what the average TT at hire is and how important the part 121 and 1000 TPIC is to getting passed the initial screening? Depending on which is important, would you suggest staying in Canada and building more TPIC or going to a regional for a couple years to gain some part 121 time?

Thanks in advance for the insight!
The average TT for civilian new hires is between 5K-6K hours. Obviously having your degree is a good thing. Get your conversion of your ATP certificate and apply. Keep updating at least every two weeks and hire a prep company to scrub your app to make sure that you’re getting all of the points possible for your application. I recommend Cage!!! They do a great job!!!
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Old 12-29-2019, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dvickersdrennan
Hi everyone,

I know that the average TT/TPIC/part 121 time upon hire has probably been answered already, but I was wondering if you guys would be able to give me your thoughts on my situation.

I’m currently in the process of converting my Canadian ATPL to an FAA ATP (before you ask, yes I am a US citizen) and I’m wondering how low my expectations of getting a call back from United or any major airline for that matter should be? I currently have around 3000TT, 1500 Turbine, 500TPIC and a degree. I don’t have any part 121 time as I’ve only flown for Canadian airlines.

Basically I’m wondering what the average TT at hire is and how important the part 121 and 1000 TPIC is to getting passed the initial screening? Depending on which is important, would you suggest staying in Canada and building more TPIC or going to a regional for a couple years to gain some part 121 time?

Thanks in advance for the insight!
I have no clue on the Canadian specific questions but I have been tracking the TT/TPIC times of new hires for years now. As you are coming from a straight CIV background you dont have the time needed yet. Like the previous poster stated, 5-6K and AT LEAST 1k TPIC. App review, (I recommend Checked at Set) network (internal recommendations and possibly a CP meet and greet), and go to a job fair once a year.

Edit: This stuff changes ALL the time and few/none of us posting know what the actual metrics are to get an app pulled.
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