United and JetBlue merger
12-30-2019, 02:43 PM
#91
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As a double furloughee from United that got hammered in the SLI, the only advantage I'd ever see of a JB merger is destroying the unholy alliance JB management has made with Ethiad and Emirates. That, in itself, might be worth another screw job by the arbitrators.
Maybe not, maybe just let Delta bleed JB in Boston with their "near Europe" aspirations.
Maybe not, maybe just let Delta bleed JB in Boston with their "near Europe" aspirations.
12-30-2019, 02:46 PM
#92
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As a double furloughee from United that got hammered in the SLI, the only advantage I'd ever see of a JB merger is destroying the unholy alliance JB management has made with Ethiad and Emirates. That, in itself, might be worth another screw job by the arbitrators.
Maybe not, maybe just let Delta bleed JB in Boston with their "near Europe" aspirations.
Maybe not, maybe just let Delta bleed JB in Boston with their "near Europe" aspirations.
Just curious and this will open up a whole new discussion fraught with "baggage", but how did you get "hammered"? The reason I ask is because did you ever change your expectations from pre-2003 to post 2003? When I got hired in 1996 I was 8442 out of 8444, and I expected to be a 747 captain for 20 years. I changed my expectations, and I am not unhappy. The new UAL/CAL combined entity is WAY stronger and better than anything I ever imagined.
12-30-2019, 02:57 PM
#93
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Are you a JB pilot pretending to be a UAL pilot. Maybe you are one of those guys “it doesn’t affect me so I’m ok with it”. It sounds like you didn’t get hammered as bad as the rest of us so it really was fair. You probably should have left that one alone.
12-30-2019, 03:17 PM
#94
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With regard to the “near Europe” aspirations: Explain to me how JetBlue operating an A321LR/XLR from BOS/JFK to Europe is any different than what United is going to do with its recently announced A321LR order. Perhaps you are worried that JetBlue being one of the largest carriers at both BOS and JFK might actually have the feed and the product in “MINT” (recently voted Best Domestic Business Class by TPG), that it could actually compete with Legacy service on Trans-Atlantic routes.
12-30-2019, 04:23 PM
#95
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With regard to the “near Europe” aspirations: Explain to me how JetBlue operating an A321LR/XLR from BOS/JFK to Europe is any different than what United is going to do with its recently announced A321LR order. Perhaps you are worried that JetBlue being one of the largest carriers at both BOS and JFK might actually have the feed and the product in “MINT” (recently voted Best Domestic Business Class by TPG), that it could actually compete with Legacy service on Trans-Atlantic routes.
With UAL rolling out Polaris on the widebodies, including the Hi-J version of the 767 with only 167 seats, MINT is a blip as far as UAL is concerned.
Consider the current JB 321 with 4 MINT "suites", while this is what UA flies to LHR 6x daily from EWR, for example:
Transatlantic, UAL and JB are two different airlines with two different markets.
12-30-2019, 04:31 PM
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You answered your own question.
Get told by the VC at LCAL "we don't want you here" during the UCAL period? Probably not, you weren't furloughed...twice.
As far as the 321 LXR for Jet Blue and Mint...please...where did you get that idea from? United PS...until Smisek killed it with his "cheapen" the product vision. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if that idiot didn't pull United out of JFK.
Funny how the Ethiad & Emirates portion of my post didn't solicit any comment...
Get told by the VC at LCAL "we don't want you here" during the UCAL period? Probably not, you weren't furloughed...twice.
As far as the 321 LXR for Jet Blue and Mint...please...where did you get that idea from? United PS...until Smisek killed it with his "cheapen" the product vision. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if that idiot didn't pull United out of JFK.
Funny how the Ethiad & Emirates portion of my post didn't solicit any comment...
12-30-2019, 06:06 PM
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You answered your own question.
Get told by the VC at LCAL "we don't want you here" during the UCAL period? Probably not, you weren't furloughed...twice.
As far as the 321 LXR for Jet Blue and Mint...please...where did you get that idea from? United PS...until Smisek killed it with his "cheapen" the product vision. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if that idiot didn't pull United out of JFK.
Funny how the Ethiad & Emirates portion of my post didn't solicit any comment...
Get told by the VC at LCAL "we don't want you here" during the UCAL period? Probably not, you weren't furloughed...twice.
As far as the 321 LXR for Jet Blue and Mint...please...where did you get that idea from? United PS...until Smisek killed it with his "cheapen" the product vision. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if that idiot didn't pull United out of JFK.
Funny how the Ethiad & Emirates portion of my post didn't solicit any comment...
12-30-2019, 06:08 PM
#98
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With regard to the “near Europe” aspirations: Explain to me how JetBlue operating an A321LR/XLR from BOS/JFK to Europe is any different than what United is going to do with its recently announced A321LR order. Perhaps you are worried that JetBlue being one of the largest carriers at both BOS and JFK might actually have the feed and the product in “MINT” (recently voted Best Domestic Business Class by TPG), that it could actually compete with Legacy service on Trans-Atlantic routes.
12-30-2019, 06:11 PM
#99
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It sounds like United has nothing to worry about with regard to JetBlue’s Europe Aspirations, clearly there is no competition, so why would you wish ill will upon JetBlue pilots and encourage Delta to “bleed” them in BOS if JetBlue isn’t even a blip for United. You made a comment about JetBlue “management” with regard to Emirates and Etihad. Since when do pilots have any effect on management relationships/comments, regardless of the topic?
12-30-2019, 07:29 PM
#100
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Again, you answered your own question. I don't wish ill will on the pilots. I think JB management needs to get spanked as they jump into bed with the ME3 willingly. If a JB pilots want to become a United pilot, I will welcome them with open arms and free beer for the first year...as a new hire.
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