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Old 12-13-2019, 09:53 PM
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Hi guys,

Does United do CDO / high speed / stand up trips where you take the last flight out, sleep and then do the first flight back to the hub the next day, all within the same duty period?

If so, how are the trips built? Are they ever built into a longer pairing? Does it pay 2 days (or duty periods)? Is there any override for this kind of trip? Any other contractual protection?

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Yes. Just did one last week. On reserve though. Flew to CLT, went to hotel for a few hours then flew back next morning.
Then again, it was a last minute thing.
Being on Reserve, I don't get anything extra
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Sounds like wb fo....fly a couple hours, hit the bunk, fly a little more. Get paid the whole time.
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
Yes. Just did one last week. On reserve though. Flew to CLT, went to hotel for a few hours then flew back next morning.
Then again, it was a last minute thing.
Being on Reserve, I don't get anything extra
Umm ... What are you talking about? How long were you in the hotel?
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Umm ... What are you talking about? How long were you in the hotel?
I'm with you... what?!?!?!
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Originally Posted by Senior Skipper
Hi guys,

Does United do CDO / high speed / stand up trips where you take the last flight out, sleep and then do the first flight back to the hub the next day, all within the same duty period?

If so, how are the trips built? Are they ever built into a longer pairing? Does it pay 2 days (or duty periods)? Is there any override for this kind of trip? Any other contractual protection?

Thanks
We don't do stand ups. West coast crews do an occasional all nighter turn within the Eastern Time zone that gets in before the WOCL.
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We used to call them illegals ... such BS at my old regional
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The answer to your question is No. But, Short Bus Drive said he apparently just did one....so I can say I now know of exactly one in my nearly 15 years here. But to your question.....nope....never built into any pairings during normal ops.
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The answer to your question is No. But, Short Bus Drive said he apparently just did one....so I can say I now know of exactly one in my nearly 15 years here. But to your question.....nope....never built into any pairings during normal ops.
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This. The key words are normal ops.
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^ ^ ^
This. The key words are normal ops.
Never had less than 9 behind the door during non-normal ops either.
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