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Old 10-26-2019, 12:47 PM
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How many new hires /returnees have we trained this year so far? I apologize if that info is on FT.
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
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1200 per year during 1998-1999 period
1500 per year now I say is reasonable guess
Exactly 1500 should not be a strain on the system.
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Exactly 1500 should not be a strain on the system.
Unless 40% of them need re-training...hope that number has or is coming down.
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Originally Posted by Macdacpilot
Unless 40% of them need re-training...hope that number has or is coming down.
40%? That sounds like a huge and unrealistic number, when you say “retraining” are you referring to additional training?

Additional training is a very mild strain on the system which is generally adsorbed with out any trouble at all. A full retrain is pretty rare in my experience.
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
40%? That sounds like a huge and unrealistic number, when you say “retraining” are you referring to additional training?

Additional training is a very mild strain on the system which is generally adsorbed with out any trouble at all. A full retrain is pretty rare in my experience.
I was told 40% by instructors there (737 fleet) and that meant redoing one event or more, be it PV, MV, etc. Not the whole course. So, yes, additional training.
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Old 10-26-2019, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Macdacpilot
I was told 40% by instructors there (737 fleet) and that meant redoing one event or more, be it PV, MV, etc. Not the whole course. So, yes, additional training.
Uh yeah.... 40% is a number to have to see in writing to believe. But that being said the 737 fleet is the problem child.
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Old 10-26-2019, 02:49 PM
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1500 new pilots plus all of the training for the people already here is pretty impressive.
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Old 10-26-2019, 03:57 PM
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They have the training footprint so small that a few extra sessions is not a failure, it means they have the calendar down to the lowest cost. It isn’t about making a pilot comfortable, it’s about getting through with the minimum time. 40% means 60% didn’t need more time, so they save money
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Airhoss, your opinion:
Have you seen an increase in additional training over the last 5 years at TK? Not looking for "statistics"... more for what you've seen, and if the lower experience of pilots that we are supposedly getting is showing up in training.
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Old 10-26-2019, 04:29 PM
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Does anyone with experience working at the training center know how many new hires that we can actually train in a year? Movement generated by vacancies and recurrent training occupy a bunch of sim time. If available, how many at current capacity, and how many when the new building is finished? We are growing and times are pretty good now, but 4,000 by 2020 sounds overly optimistic unless you are counting from several years ago, or include new regional pilots flying for UAX.
Howdy; I am 737 instructor/evaluator at the Flight Training Center. So essentially we have done a ton of hiring and growth at TK the past 9 months gearing up for the MAX. We have hired some instructors (growth) on the 787 and A LOT (growth) on the 737. The G building is complete and we are getting 3 MAX sims in 2020. First one I believe is coming early Q1 and another in March. We are also getting 2 787 sims in the G building.

I think the capacity is close to fulfilling what they are forecasting. However corporate always seems to fall short on hiring and training numbers. So take all of that with a grain of salt IMHO.

As long as the demand is there I think we will gear up to do those training loads. Time will tell.
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