Competitive Hiring Mins
10-23-2019, 09:46 AM
#21
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Really? So for this to be true there are currently no pilots senior to him under the age of 29.. find that hard to believe.
10-23-2019, 11:35 AM
#22
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You gotta be kididng me.........a 23 year old... You sure he wasn't hired at Mesa or something? Who was his mommy/daddy? So much for paying your dues.
10-23-2019, 11:36 AM
#23
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10-23-2019, 11:39 AM
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10-23-2019, 11:41 AM
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10-23-2019, 12:09 PM
#26
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When I got hired by United, (umpty-mumble years ago) there was a 22 year old pilot in the class. He was well qualified, and had an FAA letter that he could exchange for the ATP certificate on his 23rd birthday.
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10-23-2019, 03:07 PM
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10-23-2019, 03:09 PM
#28
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That is pretty spot on. Check Airman is a big one. Been that way at UAL since the 90's ......yup I am getting old!
10-24-2019, 06:44 AM
#29
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EWR FO born 1996 
Hey I don't blame them. They applied got called and were hired. I do not believe this person was an intern. It is what it is.
Hey I don't blame them. They applied got called and were hired. I do not believe this person was an intern. It is what it is.
10-24-2019, 10:09 AM
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At the end of the day.. there is just no reason to hire someone under 25.. who has not slugged it out in the left seat of an RJ, or in some sort of business jet.. where THEY were the ones in charge and had to make the big decisions.
It might be great that handfuls of pilots are getting in without ever upgrading at the Express Carrier, but it's not fair or right for all those out there who are doing it the way it was suppose to be done.
Not to mention, I do believe that we're setting ourselves up for failure in the future.
Sure, the training department is top notch.. they WILL go to the max (LOL) to help our new pilots out.
But at the end of the day.. even the best pilots have bad days.
What will happen some day when we find ourselves putting 2-3 yr pilots in the left seat with brand new hires in the right.. and stuff starts to come undone.
Absolutely nothing wrong with working for an express carrier for 3-5 years and then making the leap over to the Majors.
Seems like we're starting to see NewHires being able to hold WB (triple and Sparky). So we're gonna put new pilots on a plane were they will barely fly.. may have to go back to the sim for landings.. and some of these same pilots could be the ones hired in the early twentys with low time/low experience.
Just don't see it working out well in the long run.
My .02 cents
FS, FP & FtC
Motch
It might be great that handfuls of pilots are getting in without ever upgrading at the Express Carrier, but it's not fair or right for all those out there who are doing it the way it was suppose to be done.
Not to mention, I do believe that we're setting ourselves up for failure in the future.
Sure, the training department is top notch.. they WILL go to the max (LOL) to help our new pilots out.
But at the end of the day.. even the best pilots have bad days.
What will happen some day when we find ourselves putting 2-3 yr pilots in the left seat with brand new hires in the right.. and stuff starts to come undone.
Absolutely nothing wrong with working for an express carrier for 3-5 years and then making the leap over to the Majors.
Seems like we're starting to see NewHires being able to hold WB (triple and Sparky). So we're gonna put new pilots on a plane were they will barely fly.. may have to go back to the sim for landings.. and some of these same pilots could be the ones hired in the early twentys with low time/low experience.
Just don't see it working out well in the long run.
My .02 cents
FS, FP & FtC
Motch
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