Vacancy 20-03V
#261
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: T-38C SEFE
Posts: 79
Do you really save screen shots of some other dude's bid from 11 months ago?
#263
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 384
You mean like this guy from the December bid period last year? I’d have to look again but I believe his BES didn’t have anything less than 2 day trips. His commander must be one ball buster to have that poor pilot work one day of mil on Xmas eve and another day of mil on the 26th.
Anyone who thinks people don’t abuse mil leave around the holidays are either completely naive or just delusional.
#264
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 384
First of all, no one is forced to take an AGR tour, it’s strictly voluntary. Second, if it sucked that bad, people wouldn’t volunteer for it. There is usually a reason and for most it’s because it usually pays way better than first year FO pay just about every where when you figure all of the tax free allowances.
#265
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 154
Anybody get lateraled for Dec yet?
Anybody get lateraled for Dec from this bid award?
#266
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 459
Vacancy 20-03V
Yeah sure why not? I don’t know the dude or even who it was. I thought it was pretty funny. One Mil day - Xmas off - one Mil day on a plane that has no one or two day trips. But he could have been part of a Santa Claus strike package with a Boxing Day BDA sortie I guess.
Like someone else said, it’s comical to think mil leave isn’t abused by some. At my old joint I flat out heard guys say “oh if I can’t hold it off I’ll get my CO to write me up some orders”.
Here I’ve seen guys below the g line put a couple mil days on the transition when it’s known they need as many reserves as possible. Since PBS can’t give them a reserve line working the transition they’ll get a hard line and someone above will sit reserve because of it.
FWIW this is a total hate the game not the players.
#267
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Position: 757/767
Posts: 185
Yeah sure why not? I don’t know the dude or even who it was. I thought it was pretty funny. One Mil day - Xmas off - one Mil day on a plane that has no one or two day trips. But he could have been part of a Santa Claus strike package with a Boxing Day BDA sortie I guess.
Like someone else said, it’s comical to think mil leave isn’t abused by some. At my old joint I flat out heard guys say “oh if I can’t hold it off I’ll get my CO to write me up some orders”.
Here I’ve seen guys below the g line put a couple mil days on the transition when it’s known they need as many reserves as possible. Since PBS can’t give them a reserve line working the transition they’ll get a hard line and someone above will sit reserve because of it.
FWIW this is a total hate the game not the players.
Like someone else said, it’s comical to think mil leave isn’t abused by some. At my old joint I flat out heard guys say “oh if I can’t hold it off I’ll get my CO to write me up some orders”.
Here I’ve seen guys below the g line put a couple mil days on the transition when it’s known they need as many reserves as possible. Since PBS can’t give them a reserve line working the transition they’ll get a hard line and someone above will sit reserve because of it.
FWIW this is a total hate the game not the players.
#268
Yeah sure why not? I don’t know the dude or even who it was. I thought it was pretty funny. One Mil day - Xmas off - one Mil day on a plane that has no one or two day trips. But he could have been part of a Santa Claus strike package with a Boxing Day BDA sortie I guess.
Like someone else said, it’s comical to think mil leave isn’t abused by some. At my old joint I flat out heard guys say “oh if I can’t hold it off I’ll get my CO to write me up some orders”.
Here I’ve seen guys below the g line put a couple mil days on the transition when it’s known they need as many reserves as possible. Since PBS can’t give them a reserve line working the transition they’ll get a hard line and someone above will sit reserve because of it.
FWIW this is a total hate the game not the players.
Like someone else said, it’s comical to think mil leave isn’t abused by some. At my old joint I flat out heard guys say “oh if I can’t hold it off I’ll get my CO to write me up some orders”.
Here I’ve seen guys below the g line put a couple mil days on the transition when it’s known they need as many reserves as possible. Since PBS can’t give them a reserve line working the transition they’ll get a hard line and someone above will sit reserve because of it.
FWIW this is a total hate the game not the players.
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#270
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 109
Now that this is turning into a hate on Military Reservist thread, I have a question for the haters.
If the benefits of the Military Reserve are so great, why didn’t you join? Seriously, if the ability of position yourself to Mil Drop a Christmas trip is so great, why didn’t you join?
Yes, I’ve met some people who tried to join, but had a medical issue that is within standards for a 1st Class, but not a military flight physical... Generally, those are the people that understand what it is about, and not the keyboard commandos saving screenshots of other peoples schedules.
For everyday of Mil Leave I’ve dropped, I have a corresponding LES to match it. The company does do random audits, and some not so random audits...and I have been audited...and I turned in the paperwork to pass the audit. Dropping Mil Leave & not performing Mil Leave sounds like a great way to get fired from both jobs.
In a couple years, once I retire, someone junior to me might have 1 month where he has what appears to be a better schedule than me because of MLLV. I won’t waste one brain cell on whether or not it is fair, because:
1. I’m no longer on the hook for a year long Mobilization to Djibuti for a deployed staff tour
2. I’m no longer Mil Dropping 60 days/year at a 50% paycut
3. I show up to an Air Conditioned jetway, in an an Air Conditioned plane, and have a contract that requires them to feed me a desert with the crew meal.
If the benefits of the Military Reserve are so great, why didn’t you join? Seriously, if the ability of position yourself to Mil Drop a Christmas trip is so great, why didn’t you join?
Yes, I’ve met some people who tried to join, but had a medical issue that is within standards for a 1st Class, but not a military flight physical... Generally, those are the people that understand what it is about, and not the keyboard commandos saving screenshots of other peoples schedules.
For everyday of Mil Leave I’ve dropped, I have a corresponding LES to match it. The company does do random audits, and some not so random audits...and I have been audited...and I turned in the paperwork to pass the audit. Dropping Mil Leave & not performing Mil Leave sounds like a great way to get fired from both jobs.
In a couple years, once I retire, someone junior to me might have 1 month where he has what appears to be a better schedule than me because of MLLV. I won’t waste one brain cell on whether or not it is fair, because:
1. I’m no longer on the hook for a year long Mobilization to Djibuti for a deployed staff tour
2. I’m no longer Mil Dropping 60 days/year at a 50% paycut
3. I show up to an Air Conditioned jetway, in an an Air Conditioned plane, and have a contract that requires them to feed me a desert with the crew meal.
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