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Old 10-29-2019, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Broncofan
That's why you do it after. Not rocket science.
Good luck with that too, there’s only sixty or so years of precedence.
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Old 10-29-2019, 09:46 AM
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More good news for Denver (from the Denver Business Journal):

United Airlines (Nasdaq: UAL) is aiming to add 50 more daily flights out of Denver International Airport by 2020. That will bring DIA’s top airline passenger carrier’s total daily flights to 550.

“Denver is United’s fastest growing hub,” Jonathan Guerin, a United spokesman, said in an email. “This summer we surpassed more than 500 daily departures, a record for United in Denver and in 2020 we expect to bring Denver up to 550 peak day departures — that’s almost 150 flights per day added over four years.”


He added that the flights will be a mix of domestic and international destinations. Guerin declined to reveal the locations of the new flights, though a United official announced at an event last week that it is adding a nonstop flight from Denver International Airport to Lynden Pindling International Airport in Nassau, Bahamas, next year.

While the overall passenger traffic at DIA increased by 5.1% in 2018, international traffic grew by 14%, DIA spokeswoman Mindy Crane previously told DBJ. Additionally, Kim Day, the CEO of DIA, previously told DBJ this spring that the airport is working on securing nonstop flights to Asia and Australia.

Also, expect a huge bid in December.
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Old 10-29-2019, 09:55 AM
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Good times indeed.
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Old 10-29-2019, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Broncofan
I completely agree. Seniority at the indoc should not be age based but random. Its age discrimination. Just because you are younger you are now forced into a seat that you might not want, making less money because it's going to take longer to be a line holder, worse schedules and most likely committing. United I'm sure at some point will have a law suit.
And this mindset boys and girls is an example of why socialism is gaining ground with the younger generation. I guess we should adopt a cosmic justice policy and give out 8th place trophies so that everyone is a winner. Using age is fair. The 30 year old new hire has 35 years to advance, the 45 year old pilot only 20.
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Old 10-29-2019, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
And this mindset boys and girls is an example of why socialism is gaining ground with the younger generation. I guess we should adopt a cosmic justice policy and give out 8th place trophies so that everyone is a winner. Using age is fair. The 30 year old new hire has 35 years to advance, the 45 year old pilot only 20.

But it's all about *ME*!!!!!
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Old 10-29-2019, 10:30 AM
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The company is and should still be VERY delighted and very excited about hiring a fully trained, vetted, and qualified military pilot. it's a win win for the company, and Oscar Munoz is happy as a lark to have him or her on board, regardless of when they complete all of their UAL training requirements and hit the line.
You’re deluded by your self importance, maybe you’re being facetious? Any pilot who’s not on the line producing revenue is a drag on the network. A cost without return.
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Old 10-29-2019, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Broncofan
Because quite frankly I don't give a **** they got hired the same time as me but older.. pull seniority out of a hat, use social security numbers, but it is age discrimination the way it's done now. And no I don't think they would win because I think there have been similar law suits in the past where they have lost. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that's why old united did it according to social security numbers.






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The me me me attitude is dangerous for the 13150 minus 1 pilot seniority at UAL

FYI I am 46 years old and in the 60 percent of the seniority as of today
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Old 10-29-2019, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Thor
You’re deluded by your self importance, maybe you’re being facetious? Any pilot who’s not on the line producing revenue is a drag on the network. A cost without return.
I don’t see how a military pilot on leave is a drag. They aren’t paid reserve guarantee or anything while they’re gone. From a business standpoint I think that United would be thrilled to lock in a solid pilot and not have them go to a competitor. There’s also the PR aspect about supporting our military. There’s also the issue that those in the military past and present have made huge sacrifices to serve our country and it’s not out of line to show a little gratitude and respect to those who voluntarily serve. I wasn’t in the service, but that’s how I view those who are/were.
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Old 10-29-2019, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Broncofan
...Seniority at the indoc should not be age based but random. Its age discrimination. Just because you are younger you are now forced into a seat that you might not want, making less money because it's going to take longer to be a line holder...
You’re joking right? Some 28yo wonder kid should be the senior pilot in the class just because they scored in some rando system? Hey kid, those older pilots will be long retired while you’re flying the newest wide body in the system. Make less money, phaleez. Its 1 year (after first year pay)!
Ugh, wait until age 67 hits, then it will be “whaa, get out of my seat.”
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Old 10-29-2019, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
I don’t see how a military pilot on leave is a drag. They aren’t paid reserve guarantee or anything while they’re gone. From a business standpoint I think that United would be thrilled to lock in a solid pilot and not have them go to a competitor. There’s also the PR aspect about supporting our military. There’s also the issue that those in the military past and present have made huge sacrifices to serve our country and it’s not out of line to show a little gratitude and respect to those who voluntarily serve. I wasn’t in the service, but that’s how I view those who are/were.
401k is not a small chunk of change, assuming a year 3 737 FO is out on leave thats probably 25K/year, a year 6 777FO is probably close to 40k/year. then you can factor in all the retaining costs to bring them back up once they return from leave, assuming they left after IOE now they have wasted at about 50K in training costs as well. now if they are not on long term leave but are regularly having to place mil leave on awarded trips due to conflicts with the military that can increase the cost significantly, now the company has to burn a reserve or potentially pay 200% to cover their trip. this can be particularly problematic with last minute stuff, im not in the military but ive talked to people who claim to have put mil leave on trips inside of 24hrs to report. not bashing mil pilots but to say there is no drag associated with mil leave is not true.
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