Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

Makes sense you would like it since you wrote it......how many computers do you own? That’s 5 personalities now

Originally Posted by O2pilot

You might in the future. But for now that’s at risk. A lot of guys are going to either not get an invite, or get turned down at their upcoming interview. I hope you all realize that it takes a United ALPA pilot to pass you in the interview, and they have the ability to say “No” for any reason without explanation. Period. End of Story. To make matters worse, the current number of Interview Captains denied jumpseats is TWO and that’s JUST TODAY. They both indicated they “took names”. Those Captains are done. They can find a job elsewhere or stay at Skywest, but a United 787 or 777 will never happen for them.

I fly with a lot of former Skywest FOs but I’m afraid that we have over 10,000 apps on file and only hiring about 800 a year, and we are getting new apps as fast as we hire, so its not hard to avoid inviting Skywest or Republic pilots to an interview. Even if, in the future, they do start calling them in, the seniority numbers lost will never be recovered.

The current jumpseat agreement is reasonable, its not the ridiculous priority one we have been subjected to unilaterally.

We have a massive thread on our internal union forum that’s 100% of pilots agreeing on the same thing, that has never happened before. I have never seen so much resolve about anything before with our group, both legacy UAL and CAL.

You picked the wrong pilot group to play games with.

Originally Posted by dera

Meanwhile, all pilots wearing A Cut Above shirts are shivering and shaking in fear, thinking the FAA will show up any moment and take their certificates.

Originally Posted by O2pilot

There will be a published letter coming out. Apparently a POI was asked and he said all the FAA cares about are FARs and OPspecs and not jumpseat priority. Said that anyone in CASS is good for any jumpseat on a CASS carrier. The need for “reciprocal agreements” aren’t necessary with CASS, which is why UAL and Skywest never needed on before. They are only pre-arranged priority agreements.

Captains that fly for CASS enabled airlines that deny a CASS approved pilot are hiding behind some fake belief and are going to be held responsible for their personal rejection of another pilot for the jumpseat.

Originally Posted by Burt123

This post is gold!

“All the FAA cares about is FAR’s and OPspecs”

So what regulation allows another person access to the flight deck?

121.547.

This specifically states “has permission of the pilot in command, an appropriate management official of the Part 119 certificate holder, and the administrator........”

I can only speak for YX and YX/IBT DOES NOT have a signed reciprocal jumpseat agreement with UAL or the “Preferred” UAX carriers anymore at this time.

What does that mean?

There’s no permission from “an appropriate management official of the Part 119 certificate holder (YX), and the administrator (FOM)” to allow access to the flight deck by these carriers.

If you choose to accept any UAL pilot or any of the UAX ‘preferred’ pilots on a JS listing you have just violated FAR 121.547. You have ALSO violated your companies FOM, which may subject you to disciplinary action, including termination.

This has NOTHING to do with jumpseat priority at this time. It has EVERYTHING to do with UNAUTHORIZED access to the flight deck, which the FAA takes very seriously.

Happy commuting.

Originally Posted by Burt123

This post is gold!

“All the FAA cares about is FAR’s and OPspecs”

So what regulation allows another person access to the flight deck?

121.547.

This specifically states “has permission of the pilot in command, an appropriate management official of the Part 119 certificate holder, and the administrator........”

I can only speak for YX and YX/IBT DOES NOT have a signed reciprocal jumpseat agreement with UAL or the “Preferred” UAX carriers anymore at this time.

What does that mean?

There’s no permission from “an appropriate management official of the Part 119 certificate holder (YX), and the administrator (FOM)” to allow access to the flight deck by these carriers.

If you choose to accept any UAL pilot or any of the UAX ‘preferred’ pilots on a JS listing you have just violated FAR 121.547. You have ALSO violated your companies FOM, which may subject you to disciplinary action, including termination.

This has NOTHING to do with jumpseat priority at this time. It has EVERYTHING to do with UNAUTHORIZED access to the flight deck, which the FAA takes very seriously.

Happy commuting.

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

Look let’s put an end to this FOM non-sense......who do you have a signed agreement with? and if the FAA asks where in your FOM can you show them? I’ll give you a hint it’s called CASS. that is the governing body that allows someone to sit in your jumpseat. I guarantee you will not find a Kallita or Atlas etc....signature anywhere you look within your company records. So are you going to start denying them now too?

Originally Posted by Burt123

This post is gold!

“All the FAA cares about is FAR’s and OPspecs”

So what regulation allows another person access to the flight deck?

121.547.

This specifically states “has permission of the pilot in command, an appropriate management official of the Part 119 certificate holder, and the administrator........”

I can only speak for YX and YX/IBT DOES NOT have a signed reciprocal jumpseat agreement with UAL or the “Preferred” UAX carriers anymore at this time.

What does that mean?

There’s no permission from “an appropriate management official of the Part 119 certificate holder (YX), and the administrator (FOM)” to allow access to the flight deck by these carriers.

If you choose to accept any UAL pilot or any of the UAX ‘preferred’ pilots on a JS listing you have just violated FAR 121.547. You have ALSO violated your companies FOM, which may subject you to disciplinary action, including termination.

This has NOTHING to do with jumpseat priority at this time. It has EVERYTHING to do with UNAUTHORIZED access to the flight deck, which the FAA takes very seriously.

Happy commuting.

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

Look let’s put an end to this FOM non-sense......who do you have a signed agreement with? and if the FAA asks where in your FOM can you show them? I’ll give you a hint it’s called CASS. that is the governing body that allows someone to sit in your jumpseat. I guarantee you will not find a Kallita or Atlas etc....signature anywhere you look within your company records. So are you going to start denying them now too?