Looks like the jumpseat order got changed.
10-13-2019, 08:36 PM
#601
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You lose.
10-13-2019, 08:38 PM
#603
Line Holder
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Posts: 30
No you don’t. You want priority on Delta, American, GoJet, Republic, Air Wisconsin, Commutair, Mesa, Trans States, and ExpressJet. You keep saying that its an FOM violation? Well you have been violating the FOM for years then because you have taken jumpseaters from United without an existing reciprocal agreement. We’ve never had a reciprocal agreement between United and Skywest. Never. Its “fake news” that there was one. Your group has REFUSED to even talk about the jumpseat for a year. We know why. Its too bad you can’t stand up to your management the way you stand up to other airline pilots.
You lose.
You lose.
10-13-2019, 08:45 PM
#604
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All this talk of certificate action is silly. Unless your FOM specifically forbids certain airlines from occupying the jump-seat then how in the hell can one be violated for carrying a CASS approved and cleared jump-seater? Unions are not the feds and vice-versa. RP’s FOM has no such language written into it. This is purely union at RP and in no way regulatory and therefore punishable. It’s your seat Captains and if you feel the union is wrong it’s your decision.
10-13-2019, 08:54 PM
#605
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Posts: 491
All this talk of certificate action is silly. Unless your FOM specifically forbids certain airlines from occupying the jump-seat then how in the hell can one be violated for carrying a CASS approved and cleared jump-seater? Unions are not the feds and vice-versa. RP’s FOM has no such language written into it. This is purely union at RP and in no way regulatory and therefore punishable. It’s your seat Captains and if you feel the union is wrong it’s your decision.
Captains that fly for CASS enabled airlines that deny a CASS approved pilot are hiding behind some fake belief and are going to be held responsible for their personal rejection of another pilot for the jumpseat.
10-13-2019, 09:06 PM
#606
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There will be a published letter coming out. Apparently a POI was asked and he said all the FAA cares about are FARs and OPspecs and not jumpseat priority. Said that anyone in CASS is good for any jumpseat on a CASS carrier. The need for “reciprocal agreements” aren’t necessary with CASS, which is why UAL and Skywest never needed on before. They are only pre-arranged priority agreements.
10-13-2019, 09:10 PM
#607
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You say this yet those of us who have worked at one of those little known CASS airlines know you to be full of it here. Haha!
10-13-2019, 09:12 PM
#608
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Position: B747 FO
Posts: 626
There will be a published letter coming out. Apparently a POI was asked and he said all the FAA cares about are FARs and OPspecs and not jumpseat priority. Said that anyone in CASS is good for any jumpseat on a CASS carrier. The need for “reciprocal agreements” aren’t necessary with CASS, which is why UAL and Skywest never needed on before. They are only pre-arranged priority agreements.
Captains that fly for CASS enabled airlines that deny a CASS approved pilot are hiding behind some fake belief and are going to be held responsible for their personal rejection of another pilot for the jumpseat.
Captains that fly for CASS enabled airlines that deny a CASS approved pilot are hiding behind some fake belief and are going to be held responsible for their personal rejection of another pilot for the jumpseat.
10-13-2019, 09:13 PM
#609
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 47
No you don’t. You want priority on Delta, American, GoJet, Republic, Air Wisconsin, Commutair, Mesa, Trans States, and ExpressJet. You keep saying that its an FOM violation? Well you have been violating the FOM for years then because you have taken jumpseaters from United without an existing reciprocal agreement. We’ve never had a reciprocal agreement between United and Skywest. Never. Its “fake news” that there was one. Your group has REFUSED to even talk about the jumpseat for a year. We know why. Its too bad you can’t stand up to your management the way you stand up to other airline pilots.
You lose.
You lose.
10-13-2019, 09:14 PM
#610
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Posts: 1,358
It’s getting late and mom should be in soon to say lights out. This thread should die down for the night soon.
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