Originally Posted by Silver02ex

I think UAL express should get priority over non UAL or UAL express like myself but, seeing you post something like "we deserve priority" makes your pilot group look bad. You are a contractor, your airline doesn't own all of those planes, your airline doesn't sell their own tickets. You need United more than they need you. You don't deserve anything. This doesn't affect just the United side, but our pilot group is already talking about this. I hope you leave that attitude before asking for a ride on the yellow bus.

Originally Posted by Turbosina

Well for what it's worth, judging by my unscientific sample of fellow Skywest pilots, 90 percent of us think this is a ridiculous reaction by SAPA and we have no intent of denying anyone anything. Nobody wants to see any fellow pilot stranded somewhere, unable to get to work or home.

I've read our FOM top to bottom and nowhere does it specify that jumpseat priority among pilots is a regulatory item. I find the threat that 'You could get violated for letting a UAL pilot ride the jump' to be inaccurate, unjustified and highly ill-advised. As far as I can tell, SAPA's argument is that UALPA has unilaterally violated the terms of the agreement, thereby making the agreement invalid. I don't buy that argument.

On one hand, it is frustrating that as an OO pilot in a base that only operates on behalf of United, to be told that I'm a second class citizen compared to, say, a Air Wisconsin pilot. I don't fly for DL, AA, or AS; why should I be treated any differently than a guy from one of the 'exclusive' regionals? That said, this needs to be resolved constructively and amicably; OO's reaction has been neither.

I do hope that OO pilots will do what's right, and keep our jumpseats open to one and all. I personally know three UAL guys living in remote outstations only served by Skywest, and have had them frequently in our jumps. To think they'll now have to drive 4-6 hours each way to work is ridiculous and unacceptable.

Signed,
A Skywest pilot

Originally Posted by TenaciousB

Well said. Hope my CAs feel the same way for my next few trips.

Originally Posted by captive apple

No turbo

No reciprocal no jumpseat.

This is how it works.

Originally Posted by Turbosina

Who unilaterally decided the agreement is invalid? SAPA. Where was the pilot group involved? The first any of us heard of this was that email from Thursday.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not thrilled with UA's action, but SAPA overreacted in a big way. They unilaterally decided the agreement is void and now tell us that our certificates are at risk. If this was the outcome of a pilot vote, I'd grudgingly accept it. But it wasn't.

All this does is make everyone's commutes harder (or in some cases impossible), and generate ill will among a pilot group that many of us would very much like to be a part of. I don't commute, but I really, really don't want to see anyone left behind because of a decision made by a very small number of pilots at our company.

Originally Posted by Airhoss

Once a couple of your cAptains who are actively denying jump seats get fired this will all clear up. It’s really tough to defend yourself against management at a non union airline.

Originally Posted by Turbosina

Please ignore the troll ('airlinepilot50'). It doesn't work at Skywest.

Originally Posted by Brainsurgeon

Hopefully a non radical solution prevails but it doesn't appear that way reading the SAPA releases. At the end of the day I don't think this is going to work out well for our regional partners pilots. I'm guessing that UAL accommodates far more regional pilots on our jump seats than vice versa.

My union speaks for me and if they retaliate in kind. So be it. If nothing officially is directed all Skywest and Republic are as welcome as always on my jumpseat. I'll just continue to let my UAL ALPA reps. hash this out in the meantime.

However, I am going to predict UAL/UAL ALPA will retaliate in kind barring/advising against jumpseats after October 15th. Everyone rides my jumpseat, some get a cooler reception than others depending on their pedigree but I'm afraid that may change very soon.

I may have misread through all this diatribe but why did Skywest and Republic not respond to UAL ALPA over the past year?