As Briefed

Intimidating for sure

fastback

Feel free to change the priority on your own aircraft any time. The problem here is that UALPA is trying to unilaterally change the jumpseat priority for other carriers, contrary to a long-standing reciprocal relationship. How do you not get that that is a problem?

You want to say that there is all of a sudden no agreement that UAL recognizes for whatever reason? It sucks, but ok. We can probably all agree that nobody will really win the resulting peeing contest, but consider this: regional pilots can get from SFO to IAD or from ORD to DEN without mainline United without too much trouble. How will united pilots in IND or TUS fare without reliable regional jumpseats?

And how long will it take for United management to get sick of bumping rev pax for the sake of your stupid Richard-measuring contest before they put an end to the shenanigans?

UALinIAH

You mean like UAL telling it’s contract labor who it hired to fly it’s seats who gets to occupy those seats not used by a crew?

Is that what you meant?

Thor

You mean the two partners that were presented a revised (post 2001) agreement and opted not to accept it?

savedbythevnav

I think you’re missing the point. Go ahead and axe them if it’s what makes you feel better.

Donald said it best: “sounds good doesn’t work”

pilot772

From what I’ve been told long after all job offers, interviews, and CPP opportunities have been rescinded from these three carriers. Several buds at AA were very interested in the communication these three carriers put out and they are starting sit up and take notice as well.

814Pilot

If it’s such a sweet deal then why don’t you leave UA and come back to the regionals.... someone will gladly take your place. It’s hardly unfair that we be placed above JetBlue, Southwest... etc when we make your company a stupid amount of money and they do nothing for you.

UALinIAH

And all UAX that sign the new agreement go above JetBlue, SWA, DAL etc. No sign get in line on UAL metal. It’s really not that difficult. I mean you guys do realize UAL ALPA is only talking about UAL flight numbers right? It shouldn’t be this hard. You go first on your own metal. Always no question. If one of your own guys isn’t there you go by UAL MEC priority on UAL flights. You go above every UAL pilot on DAL and AMR already. That’s your right, you fly for them as well. It’s becoming some grade school games at this point.

Blackhawk

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This is the way it should be. UAL shouldn’t be giving priority on commutes to pilots who may be going to work for a competitor. Frankly, I was shocked to find out that this wasn’t the case already.

Bravix

To answer this question, my understanding is that the logic is as follows:

UA computer system priority is the root issue. If not awarding per FOM, then it isn't per agreement nor technically legal (approved jumpseat award order is in the FOM, though I can't see a situation where you'd get violated for that).

HOWEVER, lets say it's a SKW American Eagle flight with a UA pilot listing at the gate. This is using the AA system which will assign the jumpseat correctly per their FOM and agreement (OAL at the bottom, makes it easy). Thus, it's kosher. I assume the reason Republic is saying that after 30 days they'll deny the seat entirely is because their agreement likely has a 30 day clause for cancellation/changes to the jumpseat agreement.

My understanding of it anyway. I'm sure more info will come out in the coming days.

Edit: Added some words.