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Old 10-11-2019, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH
LOL. I thought someone was showing something signed. I was hoping my MEC didn’t step on it and send out false info.

A flow chart guideline with an ALPA logo isn’t really binding with the 2 non ALPA carriers we’re talking about.

The first line clearly states “for informational purposes only”
So back to “Show us something with the UAL MEC signature”......
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by N1CEandEZ
Yes, add the FOs to the no hire **** list because they definitely have control over who sits in the jumpseat...
I’ll just be asking him / her if they support the decision. Just a little reaction gauging, that’s all. Kind of a CRM thing as I’m on my way out the door.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by savedbythevnav
Looks like we just reviewed it on the annual bases, like it says, and made amendments.

This has been brewing for way longer than 30 days. I am in favor of dropping Skywest and republic all together.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by savedbythevnav
Ok where does it say in this agreement what the priority is for SKW pilots? Skywest and republic are claiming united is violating a reciprocal agreement by changing the priority. All this document does is solidify that a reciprocal agreement does in fact exist. A fact that has not been disputed by the UALMEC.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by savedbythevnav
How old is that piece of paper? It has the tulip on the top. If that’s enforceable then let’s go get the 1996 agreement that only allows a few 50 seaters and 146s......

That agreement was made with a pre merger United Airlines.

EDIT: signed in 2001.....lol it’s a smoking gun people. It says right in the document the agreement can be cancelled with 30 days notice. That clock started in May. Turns out you slit your own throats by digging up this relic.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
How old is that price of paper? It has the tulip on the top. If that’s enforceable then let’s go get the 1996 agreement that only allows a few 50 seaters and 146s......

That agreement was made with a pre merger United Airlines.
I too am curious of the validity (or possible lack thereof) of this document. The merger itself doesn't invalidate a contract. But this is definitely dated and pre-9/11.

It's a multi-page document so the priorities could definitely be in there but I don't possess the full, original document.

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Ok where does it say in this agreement what the priority is for SKW pilots? Skywest and republic are claiming united is violating a reciprocal agreement by changing the priority. All this document does is solidify that a reciprocal agreement does in fact exist. A fact that has not been disputed by the UALMEC.
See above. It's possible said agreement is in there so it'd be nice if someone had access to the full document.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:07 PM
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Thank you so much for posting it! Exactly what we’ve all been saying!!! We can ride each other’s JS. We still are offering ours. Skywest and Republic don’t like their priority so they are making it up on the fly and stirring up a hornets nest.

It’s simple to get the CAs name from our company login even when they’re too chicken to face the crew and say no like was happening tonight to our crews in DTW.

It’s going to get interesting.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeves
Looks like we just reviewed it on the annual bases, like it says, and made amendments.

This has been brewing for way longer than 30 days. I am in favor of dropping Skywest and republic all together.
I don't like how this is all playing out either and going full nuclear with a jumpseat war without any sort of mediation is completely ridiculous.

That said, axing two regional partners that account for a large amount of UA's domestic departures would not be beneficial for anyone at all either.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH
Thank you so much for posting it! Exactly what we’ve all been saying!!! We can ride each other’s JS. We still are offering ours. Skywest and Republic don’t like their priority so they are making it up on the fly and stirring up a hornets nest.

It’s simple to get the CAs name from our company login even when they’re too chicken to face the crew and say no like was happening tonight to our crews in DTW.

It’s going to get interesting.
Even if people are going to follow what SAPA is saying nothing should be starting today anyway.

The only people I see that are really against taking UAL/UAX jumpseaters appear to be very senior lifers. I don’t think taking down their names is going to have as big of an effect as you would think
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Simpsons
Even if people are going to follow what SAPA is saying nothing should be starting today anyway.

The only people I see that are really against taking UAL/UAX jumpseaters appear to be very senior lifers. I don’t think taking down their names is going to have as big of an effect as you would think
Names are being requested by our MEC for records. Nothing sinister. We file PDRs for any actions that are out of the ordinary so it’s brought to the company and MECs attention. What they do with those names are their business.

On our non scab forum there are numerous reports of pilots being denied JSs tonight. I don’t commute DTW-ORD so no idea what UAX carrier it was so not pointing fingers. Just that games are already being done and apparently some are too afraid to actually say no to the pilots face so they gave a letter to the CS and told them not to be listed at all. Which again is against UAL company policy for the CSR so they’re put in bad situation by a weak captain. (Yes we even have CSR names in our system for each Flt with pics on our EFB).
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