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10-11-2019, 07:54 PM

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jamesholzhauer

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Originally Posted by sleeves

I never read it the first time. I really don’t follow what goes on over there at all. Did you get scope?

Yes. It’s not perfect. But there is only one airline that I’m aware of with better scope (SWA). There cannot be outsourced RJs.

10-11-2019, 07:56 PM

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Floyd

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Originally Posted by Burt123

Were you born yesterday? Or are you another one of them clueless mainline guys on how things work. YES, B-scale ops subsidize your paychecks. All that profit sharing mainline pilots get is the direct result of regional pilot effort. Without B-scale ops you would probably have to get rid of that 2nd or 3rd house.

Let's see, your management makes the lowest bid. You vote for the contract you work under. In other words, your pay rates, your problem. B scale does not transcend over multiple airlines.

10-11-2019, 08:01 PM

#203

Legacy500

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Hey James... we are glad you’re not here too.

10-11-2019, 08:01 PM

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N1CEandEZ

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Originally Posted by DashTrash

All of us United Pilots are actually trying to take back OUR flying. You have a job because United, Delta, and American exist. You should remember that!!! Most of us at United, especially we who spent the Dark Decade in Regional Pilot Purgatory, are fighting for United Pilots to do all of the United flying.

So you want to fly 50 seaters and do 20+ leg four days? And do you really think management is going to be willing to pay mainline rates for that flying?

10-11-2019, 08:02 PM

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jamesholzhauer

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Originally Posted by Floyd

Let's see, your management makes the lowest bid. You vote for the contract you work under. In other words, your pay rates, your problem. B scale does not transcend over multiple airlines.

Forget the contract they vote on...whose contract allows the flying to be outsourced in the first place?

10-11-2019, 08:02 PM

#206

sleeves

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Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer

Yes. It’s not perfect. But there is only one airline that I’m aware of with better scope (SWA). There cannot be outsourced RJs.

That’s great! Not so easy here. We would have to strike, which the government ain’t gonna allow. I’m game if the opportunity arises.

10-11-2019, 08:03 PM

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Floyd

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Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer

Which document allows outsourced RJs? The United pilot contract? Who votes on that? United pilots?

I gather you didn't follow our bankruptcy did you? You might want to educate yourself. Sold implies receiving something in return. You couldn't be further from the truth.

10-11-2019, 08:03 PM

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MasterOfPuppets

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Originally Posted by N1CEandEZ

So you want to fly 50 seaters and do 20+ leg four days?

You should see our Airbus pairings. I could probably produce an old RJ pairing that would match exactly the flying we are doing on that fleet now.

10-11-2019, 08:04 PM

#209

Setopbug

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Shortsighted, folks.

You're going to give me a letter and deny me the jumpseat, because you don't have a union that negotiates on your behalf but you've got a quasi-union committee that wants to unilaterally deny me your jumpseat?!

That's rich.

Here's what's going to happen:

First and foremost, you are always, unless you're a ******* scab, welcome in my cockpit. You can eat my meal and I'll make sure there's room for your luggage. Please come ride on my 757.

I'm going to get to work eventually anyway, probably PS on your flight when I call CS and tell them I've missed my first flight. Our mutual customer or one of our or your fellow employees will lose out if you'r full.

I won't yell and scream. I'm not going to even take your letter. I'm going to politely note your name and wish you a good day.

I'm going to PDR it with my union.

I'll still get to work. You're only going to hurt yourself.

Last edited by Setopbug; 10-11-2019 at 08:14 PM.