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Old 10-11-2019, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeves
Ha!! I’m all for it. I personally have never voted yes to a contract that sold scope. Scope was sold 20 years ago. Most of the guys that did the selling don’t work here anymore.

Hey, you could do your part too. Maybe you should sack up and Just not fly for crap wages. Close the pay gap. Make it unprofitable to give it to you guys. Nah...your just as bad as the guys who gave up scope. You want all the flying, upgrades and new jets and routes without having to work for it on a picket line. You want me to do it for you....
But you have voted yes to a contract that didn’t take it back.

And I’m not a regional guy. And my airline flies its own RJs.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:30 PM
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No, it’s about time you brought your own flying back in house. I guarantee you no regional pilot has a “sweet deal” because so many of you guys sold scope or continue to allow scope sales to the lowest bidder. I love watching you guys complain about jumpseat wars and claim it’s all your flying and you own the routes and seats. Sack up, take it back, fly it yourself, and stop whining about RJ guys and their priority on jets you gave away.
Well let me explain something to you, since you're not part of a union. Sounds like you are probably at SKW and they have the equivalent to a Student Council. As part of a union, you cannot just demand and get what you want. All of us United Pilots are actually trying to take back OUR flying. You have a job because United, Delta, and American exist. You should remember that!!! Most of us at United, especially we who spent the Dark Decade in Regional Pilot Purgatory, are fighting for United Pilots to do all of the United flying.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer
No, it’s about time you brought your own flying back in house. I guarantee you no regional pilot has a “sweet deal” because so many of you guys sold scope or continue to allow scope sales to the lowest bidder. I love watching you guys complain about jumpseat wars and claim it’s all your flying and you own the routes and seats. Sack up, take it back, fly it yourself, and stop whining about RJ guys and their priority on jets you gave away.
Please educate us how we SOLD SCOPE.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer
But you have voted yes to a contract that didn’t take it back.

And I’m not a regional guy. And my airline flies its own RJs.
I did?? When?

Oh, I see it appears you are a JetBlue guy! Ya, you have ZERO scope language. Your company could outsource as much as they want, whenever they want. Better sack up and get some scope before it’s too late.

Good luck.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd
You subsidize our pay with your pay rates?
Were you born yesterday? Or are you another one of them clueless mainline guys on how things work. YES, B-scale ops subsidize your paychecks. All that profit sharing mainline pilots get is the direct result of regional pilot effort. Without B-scale ops you would probably have to get rid of that 2nd or 3rd house.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
Well let me explain something to you, since you're not part of a union. Sounds like you are probably at SKW and they have the equivalent to a Student Council. As part of a union, you cannot just demand and get what you want. All of us United Pilots are actually trying to take back OUR flying. You have a job because United, Delta, and American exist. You should remember that!!! Most of us at United, especially we who spent the Dark Decade in Regional Pilot Purgatory, are fighting for United Pilots to do all of the United flying.
Lol not at skyworst. Your reading comprehension is pathetic. I’m at an ALPA carrier.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:44 PM
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I did?? When?

Oh, I see it appears you are a JetBlue guy! Ya, you have ZERO scope language. Your company could outsource as much as they want, whenever they want. Better sack up and get some scope before it’s too late.

Good luck.
You sure about that? May want to reread section 1 in the JB CBA.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd
Please educate us how we SOLD SCOPE.
Which document allows outsourced RJs? The United pilot contract? Who votes on that? United pilots?
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer
You sure about that? May want to reread section 1 in the JB CBA.
I never read it the first time. I really don’t follow what goes on over there at all. Did you get scope?
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Originally Posted by Burt123
Were you born yesterday? Or are you another one of them clueless mainline guys on how things work. YES, B-scale ops subsidize your paychecks. All that profit sharing mainline pilots get is the direct result of regional pilot effort. Without B-scale ops you would probably have to get rid of that 2nd or 3rd house.
Funny you call someone clueless and then talk about B-Scale when you clearly have no idea what a B-Scale is.
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