Looks like the jumpseat order got changed.
10-18-2019, 04:41 PM
#1381
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Glad United Management put the out of control (as you could tell from their unprofessional updates that look like they were written by an 8th grader) UALPA back into their place and forced them to come to the table. The majority of the UAX lift will be back to TOC for UAL/UAX pilots with no super priority.
Great job holding the line SKW and RPA (and to a lesser extent mesa)!
Great job holding the line SKW and RPA (and to a lesser extent mesa)!
10-18-2019, 04:45 PM
#1382
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UALPA Forces a change to the jumpseat priority....
UA Pilots post how they stand with their union...
UA Pilots insist Republic pilots defy their union...
UA Pilots criticize Skywest for not having a union.
It must be nice to sit at the top of this pile and not have to choose from any of these bad options. I don't want to deny any pilot from the jumpseat but there is no other counter to ualpa's actions. I also don't want to betray my union and coworkers.
Ironically of all the three mainlines we support I always thought the United people were the ones I held in highest regard and would want to work with most. To read some of these posts though... wow.
Would it kill United to just positive space their pilots to/from trips?
UA Pilots post how they stand with their union...
UA Pilots insist Republic pilots defy their union...
UA Pilots criticize Skywest for not having a union.
It must be nice to sit at the top of this pile and not have to choose from any of these bad options. I don't want to deny any pilot from the jumpseat but there is no other counter to ualpa's actions. I also don't want to betray my union and coworkers.
Ironically of all the three mainlines we support I always thought the United people were the ones I held in highest regard and would want to work with most. To read some of these posts though... wow.
Would it kill United to just positive space their pilots to/from trips?
There are other valid and far more effective ways to resolve your grievances.
The jumpseat denials totally destroyed your credibility.
10-18-2019, 04:57 PM
#1384
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Yes. UAL lost priority on all non-exclusive carriers (Republic, SkyWest, Mesa, GoJet). They are lumped into one TOC priority with ALL UAX carriers. The original agreement placed UAL Pilots, UAL Dispatchers, and “other approved UAL people” ahead of EVERYBODY, but behind own metal.
Prior to today, Skywest, Republic, and Mesa management had not signed the new agreements as had Gojets. Now they have, so they've moved up on UAL and UAX-E flights into the same category as Gojets.
10-18-2019, 05:13 PM
#1388
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It did not. I have the original crew bulletin from October 9th. The only change on non-UAX-E flights is they reworded the "must-ride" category to "Must Ride employees (operating carrier)". That is executives, check airman doing line checks, safety audits, etc.
Prior to today, Skywest, Republic, and Mesa management had not signed the new agreements as had Gojets. Now they have, so they've moved up on UAL and UAX-E flights into the same category as Gojets.
Prior to today, Skywest, Republic, and Mesa management had not signed the new agreements as had Gojets. Now they have, so they've moved up on UAL and UAX-E flights into the same category as Gojets.
The priority as it stands after signing.
10-18-2019, 05:13 PM
#1389
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Referencing back to the original, it looks like the only modification was to change the wording in the #1 priority in all Express tables from "Approved United Personnel" to "Must Ride employees (operating carrier)". Everything else that would affect any normal line pilot's position in any of the tables is exactly the same as the original tables that were emailed out on October 9. Changing the text of that one line must have been enough to allow the jumpseat committees at Skywest and Republic to save a little face and sign.
10-18-2019, 05:15 PM
#1390
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Glad United Management put the out of control (as you could tell from their unprofessional updates that look like they were written by an 8th grader) UALPA back into their place and forced them to come to the table. The majority of the UAX lift will be back to TOC for UAL/UAX pilots with no super priority.
Great job holding the line SKW and RPA (and to a lesser extent mesa)!
Great job holding the line SKW and RPA (and to a lesser extent mesa)!
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