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Old 10-18-2019, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BusBoy88
You just proved my point. Things can turn around quickly in this industry, especially if a mainline partner wants to make a substantial investment. Enjoy your time at Republic.
Kind of like DL massively investing in YX right? Slimming down their regional feeds to the three top carriers in the industry. AA also is investing in YX with rumors of them slimming up their regional feed as well. Then there’s UA.......... nobody has got a f### clue about what the hell is going on upstairs. And thanks, enjoy your time at United, where no pride exists at your company. I’ll take a fat paycheck and the pride.
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Old 10-18-2019, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Burt123
That WAS in the original agreement that was forced upon. Here we are again, someone is lying. It’s either ALPA or it’s THREE (IBT/SAPA/MESA) representations combined... you believe whichever end you want, but the jury would side with the party of 3 vs 1.
Can you provide a screen of that agreement?
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Old 10-18-2019, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Burt123
AA/DL/UA each own a percentage of YX, so no it’s not similar. I don’t think one legacy would give one of their competitors an advantage.
It's not an advantage, it's taking the toys with you.

None of the legacies want to be locked into anything. The three big legacies jointly co-owning a regional was not the first choice of anybody involved.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Burt123
That WAS in the original agreement that was forced upon. Here we are again, someone is lying. It’s either ALPA or it’s THREE (IBT/SAPA/MESA) representations combined... you believe whichever end you want, but the jury would side with the party of 3 vs 1.
Repeat it as many times as you want, it still is false. Received 10/11:


UAX NON-EXCLUSIVE CARRIER JUMPSEAT ACCESS:

Priority on UAX Non-Exclusive Aircraft Jumpseat (GoJet)
1
FAA, Government, or Approved United Personnel
Must Ride
2
Operating Carrier Pilots
(e.g. GoJet Pilot on a GoJet flight)
Date of Hire
3
Operating Carrier Dispatchers
Date of Hire
4
UA and UAX Pilots
Time of Check-in
5
UA and UAX Dispatchers
Time of Check-in
6
Other Airline Pilots
Time of Check-in
7
Other Airline Dispatchers
Time of Check-in
8
Other Airline Non - CASS Pilots
Time of Check-in
9
FAA ATC
Time of Check-in

Non-Exclusive United Express carriers also fly for other major airlines (GoJet flies under Delta Connection). On United Express flights, United and United Express Pilots (both Exclusive and Non- Exclusive) take priority over Other Airline Pilots.

United pilots will be Time of Check-in and grouped in with all other UAX pilots attempting to jumpseat.

OTHER UAX CARRIER JUMPSEAT ON MESA, SKYWEST AND REPUBLIC ACCESS:
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
Well let me explain something to you, since you're not part of a union. Sounds like you are probably at SKW and they have the equivalent to a Student Council. As part of a union, you cannot just demand and get what you want. All of us United Pilots are actually trying to take back OUR flying. You have a job because United, Delta, and American exist. You should remember that!!! Most of us at United, especially we who spent the Dark Decade in Regional Pilot Purgatory, are fighting for United Pilots to do all of the United flying.
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Repeat it as many times as you want, it still is false. Received 10/11:


UAX NON-EXCLUSIVE CARRIER JUMPSEAT ACCESS:

Priority on UAX Non-Exclusive Aircraft Jumpseat (GoJet)
1
FAA, Government, or Approved United Personnel
Must Ride
2
Operating Carrier Pilots
(e.g. GoJet Pilot on a GoJet flight)
Date of Hire
3
Operating Carrier Dispatchers
Date of Hire
4
UA and UAX Pilots
Time of Check-in
5
UA and UAX Dispatchers
Time of Check-in
6
Other Airline Pilots
Time of Check-in
7
Other Airline Dispatchers
Time of Check-in
8
Other Airline Non - CASS Pilots
Time of Check-in
9
FAA ATC
Time of Check-in

Non-Exclusive United Express carriers also fly for other major airlines (GoJet flies under Delta Connection). On United Express flights, United and United Express Pilots (both Exclusive and Non- Exclusive) take priority over Other Airline Pilots.

United pilots will be Time of Check-in and grouped in with all other UAX pilots attempting to jumpseat.

OTHER UAX CARRIER JUMPSEAT ON MESA, SKYWEST AND REPUBLIC ACCESS:
For starters, that's not the original agreement submitted to the express carriers, and also, even in regard to that agreement, you're strategically leaving some key details... the memo from UAL MEC dated Dec 9 that you pulled your priority list from, listed SkyWest Republic Mesa Etc as OAL instead of UAX.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:36 PM
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Well now we can all go back to arguing about something else, can't we?
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rightside02
When someone gets it figured out , can you explain in easy 3rd grade detail what it was before and what changed. I do commute but thank sweet baby Jesus not on a an RJ. So not too familiar with it .
Republic and Skywest signed the same agreement that the other express carriers already signed. The same one they banned other UEX pilot groups for signing. Anything else is pure propaganda. Someone at SAPA made up a fake agreement and tried to say that’s what we were asking for to save face.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
For starters, that's not the original agreement submitted to the express carriers, and also, even in regard to that agreement, you're strategically leaving some key details... the memo from UAL MEC dated Dec 9 that you pulled your priority list from, listed SkyWest Republic Mesa Etc as OAL instead of UAX.
Nice try, but completely wrong. JoePatroni's is the priority list sent to the UAX carriers on 5/14/19 and sent out in a UAL MEC update on 10/11/19. Some folks are trying to rewrite some history to save face.
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Well now we can all go back to arguing about something else, can't we?
Sounds good! How about that stuuuuupid renumbering of Gates in SFO?!? No way am I going to do walk arounds in that green vest at newly renumbered gates!
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by O2pilot
Republic and Skywest signed the same agreement that the other express carriers already signed. The same one they banned other UEX pilot groups for signing. Anything else is pure propaganda. Someone at SAPA made up a fake agreement and tried to say that’s what we were asking for to save face.
Hit the nail on the proverbial head right there
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