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10-06-2019, 12:42 PM
#61
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What’s your point? There are more SkyWest pilots than ExpressJet pilots. SkyWest wasn’t violating any CPA with another airline they contract for and they still aren’t. However, they would be if they were part of the Aviate program. I don’t doubt that UA will continue to get a large chunk of their pilots from SkyWest even though they are non-union.
10-06-2019, 12:49 PM
#62
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True, UA doesn’t care if new hires were previously union, neither do I. I added it because airlinepilot50 erroneously brought up ALPA and SkyWest as if they somehow mattered wrt who has been getting hired.
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10-06-2019, 01:17 PM
#63
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Stop throwing your fellow ALPA pilots in hole they didn’t deserve. Clarify how this increases safety at United? You are admitting that United cares less about safety at the regionals because it only matters when a United customer flies on mainline? That sounds reassuring to the passengers United sells tickets to.
10-06-2019, 01:28 PM
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“It’s in the interest of myself and others denied jobs at mainline to expand scope so we can have a better quality of life. It’s unfortunate that ALPA mainline pilots do not do more to advance ALL ALPA regional pilots so we can be on the same team. I’m enjoying the new 175 and expect to see more coming our way. It’s a great airplane and fun to fly.“-airlinepilot50
So you want to expand scope to get more planes at your regional so that you can upgrade sooner? The time it will take you to get to a major will increase, not decrease. That would be about another 5 years of career stagnation at the regionals for every other regional pilot and yourself. Seems selfish and short sighted to me me.
So you want to expand scope to get more planes at your regional so that you can upgrade sooner? The time it will take you to get to a major will increase, not decrease. That would be about another 5 years of career stagnation at the regionals for every other regional pilot and yourself. Seems selfish and short sighted to me me.
10-06-2019, 01:33 PM
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“By the end of the year I will pull in 300K between flying and my business. I average 20 days off a month. My pilot skills and experience is more than what any United passenger deserves. Your profit sharing is what I make in a month.”-airlinepilot50
Ok, how about $5000 if you show me you are on track to make only 200k this year and an average of only 18 days off a month for the last 4 months.
Ok, how about $5000 if you show me you are on track to make only 200k this year and an average of only 18 days off a month for the last 4 months.
10-06-2019, 01:50 PM
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10-06-2019, 02:13 PM
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Huh? Stop throwing ALPA pilots in a hole they didn’t deserve? I never said anything about increasing safety at United. I think the regionals have a very high degree of safety and their training programs are good. You may be projecting here. The regional product quality is low due to the whipsaw effect and budget restrictions but this has nothing to do with the quality of regional pilots. I myself came from a regional where I spent 9 years. Like the rest of the UA pilots I fly with, I want to grow mainline and shrink the regionals as much as possible and get as many of our regional brothers here as soon as possible making mainline pay. The Aviate program is trying to accomplish this.
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10-06-2019, 03:14 PM
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