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Old 09-25-2019, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Viper1616
Hi guys,

Im trying to gauge how much time Military pilots (Fighter guys specifically) have when getting called by United recently.

I've got 1800 TT. 1350 Turbine PIC (All Single Seat Fighter). Anyone gotten a call with similar #s?

Thanks in advance!
I think you are fine with those hours, but United pulls their applications based on a computer score. Hours/type are part of that formula and weighted accordingly. If you can check other boxes like Squadron Commander, Director of Ops, Safety Officer, NATOPS/SEFE etc then you will likely be competitive. The more boxes checked the better. I would apply and see what happens. The next big boxes to check would be "121 experience".

Editing to add - recent anecdotal evidence - AA offered an interview to a retiring Fighter Pilot that was non-current...as in...hadn't flown anything in years. They asked if he flew fighters...and then sent the email invite to start the process.
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Old 09-25-2019, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Viper1616
Hi guys,

Im trying to gauge how much time Military pilots (Fighter guys specifically) have when getting called by United recently.

I've got 1800 TT. 1350 Turbine PIC (All Single Seat Fighter). Anyone gotten a call with similar #s?

Thanks in advance!
ThatGuy 74 definitely is on track. My .02 is do you have an ATP?
That seems like your final box to check as you have to have it. So either go to a regional, or pay up on your own. An AA wholly owned, if close to you would be ideal. The regional experience can be painful yet extremely beneficial for your transition to the majors. I would definitely do it.
Good luck!

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Old 09-25-2019, 07:27 AM
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You're fine. Be patient. Don't incur any more ADSCs.
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Old 09-25-2019, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FlewNavy
I think you are fine with those hours, but United pulls their applications based on a computer score. Hours/type are part of that formula and weighted accordingly. If you can check other boxes like Squadron Commander, Director of Ops, Safety Officer, NATOPS/SEFE etc then you will likely be competitive. The more boxes checked the better. I would apply and see what happens. The next big boxes to check would be "121 experience".

Editing to add - recent anecdotal evidence - AA offered an interview to a retiring Fighter Pilot that was non-current...as in...hadn't flown anything in years. They asked if he flew fighters...and then sent the email invite to start the process.
Non-current and low time and he gets an American interview?
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Old 09-25-2019, 07:30 AM
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Apply for the majors obviously, but get into a regional. Within a year you will be hired at a major vs waiting for a year, possibly not getting a call, then spending another year at a regional.
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Old 09-25-2019, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by beavf16
you're fine. Be patient. don't incur any more adscs.
this!! 👆👆👆👆
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Old 09-25-2019, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FlewNavy
I think you are fine with those hours, but United pulls their applications based on a computer score. Hours/type are part of that formula and weighted accordingly. If you can check other boxes like Squadron Commander, Director of Ops, Safety Officer, NATOPS/SEFE etc then you will likely be competitive. The more boxes checked the better. I would apply and see what happens. The next big boxes to check would be "121 experience".

Editing to add - recent anecdotal evidence - AA offered an interview to a retiring Fighter Pilot that was non-current...as in...hadn't flown anything in years. They asked if he flew fighters...and then sent the email invite to start the process.
This ^^^

The UAL computer scoring process is truly an enigma, but it does weight your single seat time against transport time as much as 3 Xs. What is also important to your score is what you did after getting your wings, currency, leadership, and yes other life events.

My personal experience with the current batch of new-hires is they are very (extremely) qualified and current. Most military types seem to be in mid 40s to about 50 years old, Majors to Full Birds and a lot of command experience. Other Military types seem to have filled their obligations and then transitioned to civilian flying where they too have risen to "leadership" positions as instructors and check airmen.

Basically the UAL process seems to put emphasis on being a leader in some sort of aviation roll and just having "hours" won't always make the cut.

Good luck.
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Old 09-25-2019, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper1616
Currently flying F-16s. Between AF flying and GA stuff on the side I’m at about 150 hours/year. I’m an instructor at the USAF weapons school. Great job, but for every hour of flying it’s about 20 hours of mission planning, briefing, and debriefing
If it takes you that long to get ready for a flight, maybe the airlines aren’t for you? 🤣
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Old 09-25-2019, 01:02 PM
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If it takes you that long to get ready for a flight, maybe the airlines aren’t for you? 🤣
Hey don’t poke fun at us simpletons! It just takes us a littler longer!
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Old 09-25-2019, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper1616
Currently flying F-16s. Between AF flying and GA stuff on the side I’m at about 150 hours/year. I’m an instructor at the USAF weapons school. Great job, but for every hour of flying it’s about 20 hours of mission planning, briefing, and debriefing


We definitely don’t need any more patch wearers. I think American or delta would be your best bet.


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