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09-27-2019, 05:04 AM

#61

Contrail06

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That furlough was 18 years ago. How long should I be using it as a reference?

Flame away.

09-27-2019, 05:18 AM

#62

NFLUALNFL

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Contrail06

That furlough was 18 years ago. How long should I be using it as a reference?

Flame away.

It depends on one's perspective and personal history in this industry doesn't it. Think more about the damage caused and not the time past since. Thinking about it can still send a chill up my spine. I'm happy where we are as an industry and I hope it never happens to any of us again.
Cheers

09-27-2019, 06:53 AM

#63

Floyd

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Originally Posted by Contrail06

That furlough was 18 years ago. How long should I be using it as a reference?

Flame away.

A furlough might end but in this case, they are living with it's aftermath for the rest of their life.

09-27-2019, 08:23 AM

#64

bigfatdaddy

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Originally Posted by Floyd

A furlough might end but in this case, they are living with it's aftermath for the rest of their life.

Yup...........🤮

09-27-2019, 09:08 AM

#65

Regularguy

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Originally Posted by Floyd

A furlough might end but in this case, they are living with it's aftermath for the rest of their life.

I was furloughed many years ago and yes the memory and it's effect is still with me today (as is the 85 strike).

But, correct me if I'm wrong, the people returning today from furlough could have returned a number of years ago. They (most) basically used the voluntary delayed recall and extra time to further other opportunities and things in their lives.

I've met many who have solidified their finances and health benefits for retirement, enjoyed leadership roles and took advantage of professional opportunities. They would have unlikely been unable to do some of these things had they returned to UAL at their first opportunity.

Yes furloughs suck, but kudos to those who turned them into opportunities and now can enjoy the remainder of their career at UAL.

Welcome back! This isn't the UAL you left.

09-27-2019, 12:05 PM

#66

Thor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Contrail06

That furlough was 18 years ago. How long should I be using it as a reference?

Flame away.

We’ll remind you of that during the next downturn, good luck.

09-27-2019, 12:36 PM

#67

Contrail06

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We’ll remind you of that during the next downturn, good luck.

And I still won’t see the relevance.

09-27-2019, 12:45 PM

#68

UAL T38 Phlyer

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Originally Posted by Contrail06

And I still won’t see the relevance.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

-George Santayana

(Relevance)

09-27-2019, 12:50 PM

#69

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Contrail06

And I still won’t see the relevance.

OK, I'll bite. What's your point?

Getting furloughed is a major life event. There were suicides, destroyed marriages, & financial ruin for many people.

I was furloughed in '08 and it sucked. It sucked a lot worse for a lot more people. Your posts can be construed as flippant and disrespectful.

It even troubles me that I wasted time responding to your comment.

Old Mako may chime in here with more words, but I would guess this would not be worth his time. You've been at UAL for a few months at least. Surely you have received some mentoring.