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#21
It can be said over and over, treat a CPP opportunity like the golden ticket that it is and not a gimme - but too many in that pipeline don't heed the advice and then harp about how they didn't get selected, blah blah blah.
#22
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Pretty much what I meant. Street invites are interviewed on Tuesdays and Wednesdays while CPP candidates are interviewed on Thursdays (generally). I've heard that the interview board doesn't look forward to Thursdays largely due to the difference in attitude by many of those being interviewed.
It can be said over and over, treat a CPP opportunity like the golden ticket that it is and not a gimme - but too many in that pipeline don't heed the advice and then harp about how they didn't get selected, blah blah blah.
It can be said over and over, treat a CPP opportunity like the golden ticket that it is and not a gimme - but too many in that pipeline don't heed the advice and then harp about how they didn't get selected, blah blah blah.
As mentioned elsewhere, many simply found employment rather easily at other places.
Sure, there were some idiots that fell into the “wouldn’t have been interviewed otherwise”. The point still stands.
And naturally, some of those that fell into the “wouldn’t have been interviewed otherwise” WERE hired. Some of the most avoided pilots, substandard training records, etc.
#23
I’m amazed how they seem genuinely shocked when they don’t get a job offer and then complain. The CPP just allows them to go through the interview process. It isn’t like they’re already working for United and simply going through a formality to come off of C-scale pay rates. Oh well. That just frees up a slot for someone with a better attitude.
#24
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There have been plenty of guys/gals that have been well prepared, good attitudes that didn't make it through. There will always be a small minority anywhere u go that will make the majority look bad. btw the CPP has been stopped from what I heard, not a single hogan has gone out since 2018, so it's dead in it's tracks. So, who knows what the future plans will be.
#25
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There have been plenty of guys/gals that have been well prepared, good attitudes that didn't make it through. There will always be a small minority anywhere u go that will make the majority look bad. btw the CPP has been stopped from what I heard, not a single hogan has gone out since 2018, so it's dead in it's tracks. So, who knows what the future plans will be.
#28
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#29
United regional pilots have a bad attitude because of how United runs the regional airlines. Have you witnessed how Commutair and Mesa pilots dress and conduct themselves in public? It reflects horribly on United. United regionals will never attract top quality pilots like American wholly-owned regionals that offer a direct flow. C5 crashed an airplane last winter because United does not care about safety or the quality of pilots their regional partners are hiring.
I spent a few years, well over a decade actually toiling as a commuter dog for American (Pre-merge) Piedmont (pre-merge) and then Usair. They all sucked. Any commuter dog with a bad attitude has likely earned it. The mainlines used regional feed to squash ALPA and for little else. Yes, it allowed them to suck up fares from cities like Kinston, Ithaca, Lynchburg, Moline, Baton Rouge, and Groton. But, feed was more of a cudgel than anything else. At least, that's how it looked to me. And after I took my eye off of that ball, it was shoved up my evac tube shortly after 911, just so I could reacquaint myself with reality and go back to being a commuter dog. Well, Foxtrot that.
Bad attitudes prevail because thousands of pilots who have spent a TON of money and time to get the quals are jammed into lousy spots, making lousy wages, with lousy support. And, they get treated like a big bag of offal! I cannot imagine that there is any real difference at any of them. You're there to build time and they know it. That will be used against you.
You pay a guy slave wages to fly a multi-million RJ a ton of hours over the course of a year and you think he's going to show up GQ spiffy every day? You're delusional. We used to have rolling mandatory junior man... they'd nail you at the end of a trip to fly tomorrow on your day off, your vacation even. Well, what attitude shall I bring to work on my vacation? Shall I press my slacks? I'm not talking once or twice annually, try most of the summer at the least. WHY should they care about how it reflects on U? They don't work for U. They work for peanuts.
Top-quality costs money. And money flows uphill in this industry, not down.
Last edited by oldmako; 08-15-2019 at 06:32 PM.
#30
Oh barf.
I spent a few years, well over a decade actually toiling as a commuter dog for American (Pre-merge) Piedmont (pre-merge) and then Usair. They all sucked. Any commuter dog with a bad attitude has likely earned it. The mainlines used regional feed to squash ALPA and for little else. Yes, it allowed them to suck up fares from cities like Kinston, Ithaca, Lynchburg, Moline, Baton Rouge, and Groton. But, feed was more of a cudgel than anything else. At least, that's how it looked to me. And after I took my eye off of that ball, it was shoved up my evac tube shortly after 911, just so I could reacquaint myself with reality and go back to being a commuter dog. Well, Foxtrot that.
Bad attitudes prevail because thousands of pilots who have spent a TON of money and time to get the quals are jammed into lousy spots, making lousy wages, with lousy support. And, they get treated like a big bag of offal! I cannot imagine that there is any real difference at any of them. You're there to build time and they know it. That will be used against you.
You pay a guy slave wages to fly a multi-million RJ a ton of hours over the course of a year and you think he's going to show up GQ spiffy every day? You're delusional. We used to have rolling mandatory junior man... they'd nail you at the end of a trip to fly tomorrow on your day off, your vacation even. Well, what attitude shall I bring to work on my vacation? Shall I press my slacks? I'm not talking once or twice annually, try most of the summer at the least. WHY should they care about how it reflects on U? They don't work for U. They work for peanuts.
Top-quality costs money. And money flows uphill in this industry, not down.
I spent a few years, well over a decade actually toiling as a commuter dog for American (Pre-merge) Piedmont (pre-merge) and then Usair. They all sucked. Any commuter dog with a bad attitude has likely earned it. The mainlines used regional feed to squash ALPA and for little else. Yes, it allowed them to suck up fares from cities like Kinston, Ithaca, Lynchburg, Moline, Baton Rouge, and Groton. But, feed was more of a cudgel than anything else. At least, that's how it looked to me. And after I took my eye off of that ball, it was shoved up my evac tube shortly after 911, just so I could reacquaint myself with reality and go back to being a commuter dog. Well, Foxtrot that.
Bad attitudes prevail because thousands of pilots who have spent a TON of money and time to get the quals are jammed into lousy spots, making lousy wages, with lousy support. And, they get treated like a big bag of offal! I cannot imagine that there is any real difference at any of them. You're there to build time and they know it. That will be used against you.
You pay a guy slave wages to fly a multi-million RJ a ton of hours over the course of a year and you think he's going to show up GQ spiffy every day? You're delusional. We used to have rolling mandatory junior man... they'd nail you at the end of a trip to fly tomorrow on your day off, your vacation even. Well, what attitude shall I bring to work on my vacation? Shall I press my slacks? I'm not talking once or twice annually, try most of the summer at the least. WHY should they care about how it reflects on U? They don't work for U. They work for peanuts.
Top-quality costs money. And money flows uphill in this industry, not down.
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