Feeling a little stressed
06-25-2019, 02:11 PM
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Feeling a little stressed
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/06...t-737-max-faa/
Where do I sign up for a little stress relief?
Where do I sign up for a little stress relief?
06-25-2019, 06:51 PM
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Air Canada? - from the article: "The lawsuit is filed as a class action, saying potentially “more than four hundred pilots” at the unnamed airline could join. The documents provide little information about the single pilot currently involved in the case, besides that he or she is Canadian and works for an “international airline.”
06-25-2019, 07:15 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's an Air Canada Pilot.
There are a little over 400 737max pilots at Air Canada not working.
MAX is all we have, no NGs to go fly...
Company has a force majeure clause to not pay monthly guarantees on fleet groundings out of their control and doesn't want to reduce the positions to other fleets in case the grounding is lifted tomorrow.
Union got scared and quickly agreed to a short sighted very minimum pay among other concessions... yet these are usually the busiest, best paying months of the year... Captains are easily going to be out $50K+ if it goes to the end of the year.
Not to mention we have restrictions on type bidding... When you burn your upgrade on the 737, it's tough to switch to the 320 or another narrow body or vice-versa.
So stuck on the lemon with little certainty in sight and at a take home pay below what I made as an FO on my last type.
There are a little over 400 737max pilots at Air Canada not working.
MAX is all we have, no NGs to go fly...
Company has a force majeure clause to not pay monthly guarantees on fleet groundings out of their control and doesn't want to reduce the positions to other fleets in case the grounding is lifted tomorrow.
Union got scared and quickly agreed to a short sighted very minimum pay among other concessions... yet these are usually the busiest, best paying months of the year... Captains are easily going to be out $50K+ if it goes to the end of the year.
Not to mention we have restrictions on type bidding... When you burn your upgrade on the 737, it's tough to switch to the 320 or another narrow body or vice-versa.
So stuck on the lemon with little certainty in sight and at a take home pay below what I made as an FO on my last type.
Last edited by altiplano; 06-25-2019 at 07:27 PM.
06-25-2019, 07:29 PM
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I doubt it’s a SWA pilot. I hope not. We have 34 Max’s grounded out of 750+ 737’s. I’m thinking Air Canada? WestJet?
06-26-2019, 07:44 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's an Air Canada Pilot.
There are a little over 400 737max pilots at Air Canada not working.
MAX is all we have, no NGs to go fly...
Company has a force majeure clause to not pay monthly guarantees on fleet groundings out of their control and doesn't want to reduce the positions to other fleets in case the grounding is lifted tomorrow.
Union got scared and quickly agreed to a short sighted very minimum pay among other concessions... yet these are usually the busiest, best paying months of the year... Captains are easily going to be out $50K+ if it goes to the end of the year.
Not to mention we have restrictions on type bidding... When you burn your upgrade on the 737, it's tough to switch to the 320 or another narrow body or vice-versa.
So stuck on the lemon with little certainty in sight and at a take home pay below what I made as an FO on my last type.
There are a little over 400 737max pilots at Air Canada not working.
MAX is all we have, no NGs to go fly...
Company has a force majeure clause to not pay monthly guarantees on fleet groundings out of their control and doesn't want to reduce the positions to other fleets in case the grounding is lifted tomorrow.
Union got scared and quickly agreed to a short sighted very minimum pay among other concessions... yet these are usually the busiest, best paying months of the year... Captains are easily going to be out $50K+ if it goes to the end of the year.
Not to mention we have restrictions on type bidding... When you burn your upgrade on the 737, it's tough to switch to the 320 or another narrow body or vice-versa.
So stuck on the lemon with little certainty in sight and at a take home pay below what I made as an FO on my last type.
06-26-2019, 08:58 AM
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Billion dollar company stiffs a hundred or so of the working class because they can. The guys that control the parking brake and the throttles and the safe taxi speed and the cruise altitude, etc etc etc. Some pilots, not the Marvi-bots mind you, have long memories.
Once again Management will likely get the employee attitude they foster.
(Yes, I know that it's different this time and that I'm just a malcontent and I must be miserable to fly with and that the company would never do that and that's not how they'd ever interpret that paragraph and if I'm so miserable why don't I just quit and where's your hat and why don't we just carry this trash downline to our fellow pilots at an out-station with no maintenance and lets keep our powder dry and we'll get em next time and .....)
Once again Management will likely get the employee attitude they foster.
(Yes, I know that it's different this time and that I'm just a malcontent and I must be miserable to fly with and that the company would never do that and that's not how they'd ever interpret that paragraph and if I'm so miserable why don't I just quit and where's your hat and why don't we just carry this trash downline to our fellow pilots at an out-station with no maintenance and lets keep our powder dry and we'll get em next time and .....)
Last edited by oldmako; 06-26-2019 at 09:23 AM.
06-26-2019, 06:00 PM
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Billion dollar company stiffs a hundred or so of the working class because they can. The guys that control the parking brake and the throttles and the safe taxi speed and the cruise altitude, etc etc etc. Some pilots, not the Marvi-bots mind you, have long memories.
Once again Management will likely get the employee attitude they foster.
(Yes, I know that it's different this time and that I'm just a malcontent and I must be miserable to fly with and that the company would never do that and that's not how they'd ever interpret that paragraph and if I'm so miserable why don't I just quit and where's your hat and why don't we just carry this trash downline to our fellow pilots at an out-station with no maintenance and lets keep our powder dry and we'll get em next time and .....)
Once again Management will likely get the employee attitude they foster.
(Yes, I know that it's different this time and that I'm just a malcontent and I must be miserable to fly with and that the company would never do that and that's not how they'd ever interpret that paragraph and if I'm so miserable why don't I just quit and where's your hat and why don't we just carry this trash downline to our fellow pilots at an out-station with no maintenance and lets keep our powder dry and we'll get em next time and .....)
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