Avianca
06-11-2019, 02:41 PM
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UAL's majority ownership of Avianca is a scope violation. And scope is about as serious as it gets.
As a bonus this happened during contract talks that are currently focused on the remaining items of pay, retirement and...scope.
This is gonna get interesting fast.
As a bonus this happened during contract talks that are currently focused on the remaining items of pay, retirement and...scope.
This is gonna get interesting fast.
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06-11-2019, 04:41 PM
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It could be used as leverage but there is nothing I'm willing to ease scope for. So imho it's a moot point. These are two completely separate issues that should not influence each other.
06-11-2019, 04:50 PM
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You think the company is using a bad loan to leverage negotiating new CBA language - by blatantly violating current language? Yes, shrewd! 
Let’s see how that works out.
It appears that company was trying to salvage a bad loan which is understandable, but, the details are going to cost them. The Master Chairman has more than enough experience and a sterling track record in the grievance arena. I guess we’ll wait for a new CBA while the company learns about scope.
Let’s see how that works out. It appears that company was trying to salvage a bad loan which is understandable, but, the details are going to cost them. The Master Chairman has more than enough experience and a sterling track record in the grievance arena. I guess we’ll wait for a new CBA while the company learns about scope.
06-11-2019, 07:20 PM
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You think the company is using a bad loan to leverage negotiating new CBA language - by blatantly violating current language? Yes, shrewd! Let’s see how that works out.
It appears that company was trying to salvage a bad loan which is understandable, but, the details are going to cost them. The Master Chairman has more than enough experience and a sterling track record in the grievance arena. I guess we’ll wait for a new CBA while the company learns about scope.
Let’s see how that works out. It appears that company was trying to salvage a bad loan which is understandable, but, the details are going to cost them. The Master Chairman has more than enough experience and a sterling track record in the grievance arena. I guess we’ll wait for a new CBA while the company learns about scope.
Why the rush? It's not personal, just business.
06-11-2019, 07:31 PM
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How many posts
Interesting development....
So, how about a poll.
Chime in with how many posts are made on this subject before someone starts attacking another poster.
I’m guessing 11. (Poll replies don’t count)
So, how about a poll.
Chime in with how many posts are made on this subject before someone starts attacking another poster.
I’m guessing 11. (Poll replies don’t count)
06-11-2019, 07:59 PM
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Why attack. We might have differences of opinion but in the end most want the same thing in a better contract. Polls or fake Gardener letters aren't needed.
06-11-2019, 09:20 PM
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