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JoePatroni 01-22-2019 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2747680)
To the Captains credit he was honest with the passengers and tried everything to get the company to launch a rescue effort.

“”The flight crew was great and did the best they could, but you know it’s bad when the Captain starts telling passengers the email Oscar Munoz and post to social media in a bid to actually get some sort of rescue plan in motion. He had more faith in a viral campaign than he did in the company he represents..””


I can guarantee you, no one was just sitting on their hands. Apparently the general public thinks there are spare widebodies laying around, with crews sitting in the ready room waiting to launch. Just because some random passenger sends a tweet doesn't mean it happened.

sailingfun 01-22-2019 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2747683)
I can guarantee you, no one was just sitting on their hands. Apparently the general public thinks there are spare widebodies laying around, with crews sitting in the ready room waiting to launch. Just because some random passenger sends a tweet doesn't mean it happened.

No need for a spare widebody. It’s a two hour flight. Any combination of airframes would have been fine. If they wanted a spare 777 I agree it would most likely require canceling a revenue flight but that probably would have been a wise choice. A couple of 737’s would have been worked also.

JoePatroni 01-22-2019 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2747696)
No need for a spare widebody. It’s a two hour flight. Any combination of airframes would have been fine. If they wanted a spare 777 I agree it would most likely require canceling a revenue flight but that probably would have been a wise choice. A couple of 737’s would have been worked also.


The big delay was thinking they could fix the door, once they realized they couldn't I don't think it took all that long to send another airplane up there. Sometimes **** happens, some passengers will always be ****ed whenever their flight doesn't go perfectly- no matter how much effort goes into fixing it. Sending narrow bodies would have also entailed manually emptying all the bags out of the containers too.

galaxy flyer 01-22-2019 06:14 AM

Brings up the question of those airfields in Siberia that are ETOPS diverts for the Polar routes, how good would landing in Tiksi or Yakutsk be? I overflew Siberia in Globals and shook at the thought of landing there. Our company did cold weather testing in Yakutsk, awful.

GF

JoePatroni 01-22-2019 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2747704)
Brings up the question of those airfields in Siberia that are ETOPS diverts for the Polar routes, how good would landing in Tiksi or Yakutsk be? I overflew Siberia in Globals and shook at the thought of landing there. Our company did cold weather testing in Yakutsk, awful.

GF


Yakutsk doesn't look like much but Irkutsk is actually a pretty vibrant city.

sailingfun 01-22-2019 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2747703)
The big delay was thinking they could fix the door, once they realized they couldn't I don't think it took all that long to send another airplane up there. Sometimes **** happens, some passengers will always be ****ed whenever their flight doesn't go perfectly- no matter how much effort goes into fixing it. Sending narrow bodies would have also entailed manually emptying all the bags out of the containers too.

I have been involved in several rescue flights. They don’t move bags in minus 30 temps. Even in better weather they normally leave the bags on the originating flight.The bags come back when the aircraft is fixed.

APC225 01-22-2019 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2747704)
Brings up the question of those airfields in Siberia that are ETOPS diverts for the Polar routes, how good would landing in Tiksi or Yakutsk be? I overflew Siberia in Globals and shook at the thought of landing there. Our company did cold weather testing in Yakutsk, awful.

If it’s good enough for SAC SIOP KC-135s to land as gliders after code red refueling of the B-52s, it’s good enough for the traveling public. At least the KC-135s carry(ied) a (one) parachute.

galaxy flyer 01-22-2019 06:44 AM

Yeah, Irkutsk is vibrant, near Baikal. There’s a Marriott there, points!

GF

757Driver 01-22-2019 07:53 AM

No wonder, Captains a 570 guy !! :D

So easy to armchair quarterback this one but no, I probably wouldn't have dropped into Goose and chose Gander or St Johns in lieu of it. Wasn't there and won't and shouldn't critique those on that were on the flight deck. Everyone survived and all's well.

sleeves 01-22-2019 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2747661)
Medlink offers advice, The captain and dispatch decide if a divert is needed and to what city.

This!!! +1000.


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