Upgrade time to captain?
12-23-2018, 05:19 PM
#31
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I was hired in the middle of a hiring boom, and told five years to captain. 4 years later we were in bankruptcy.
I interviewed then with TWA, who told me; “In five years one half the seniority list will be retired, and in 7 years 3/4 will be retired”.
Riiiight... in 10 years the entire seniority list was gone.
I didn’t take the job..couldn’t handle the “B” scale.
This is something you have no control of, just like the amount of the next profit sharing check.
12-23-2018, 06:02 PM
#33
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12-23-2018, 06:06 PM
#34
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Don’t worry about it. It won’t happen as predicted.
I was hired in the middle of a hiring boom, and told five years to captain. 4 years later we were in bankruptcy.
I interviewed then with TWA, who told me; “In five years one half the seniority list will be retired, and in 7 years 3/4 will be retired”.
Riiiight... in 10 years the entire seniority list was gone.
I didn’t take the job..couldn’t handle the “B” scale.
This is something you have no control of, just like the amount of the next profit sharing check.
I was hired in the middle of a hiring boom, and told five years to captain. 4 years later we were in bankruptcy.
I interviewed then with TWA, who told me; “In five years one half the seniority list will be retired, and in 7 years 3/4 will be retired”.
Riiiight... in 10 years the entire seniority list was gone.
I didn’t take the job..couldn’t handle the “B” scale.
This is something you have no control of, just like the amount of the next profit sharing check.
Thank you. It seems the uncertainty in this field is the only thing you can count on.
12-23-2018, 07:49 PM
#36
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I just jumpseated home with the guy that just got the bottom SFO Airbus CA position. He was hired in 2015, but predicts by the time he starts/finishes CA Upgrade, that'll be first quarter 2019....so approx 4 years currently.
All this really means nothing to an applicant, or even newhire, as it's always a dynamic number (2-20 years)
All this really means nothing to an applicant, or even newhire, as it's always a dynamic number (2-20 years)
12-23-2018, 08:11 PM
#37
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I’m UA. 3 yrs on property and have a 777 bid. Maybe could hold NB capt next bid if it goes as junior and accounting for retirement advancement between now and then. I say go to the legacy as it gives you more options than anyone else. You can only make so much lemonade from these part 121 lemons, but at least UA has so many different flavors offered you can definitely find one that pleases your pallete for sure.
12-23-2018, 09:00 PM
#38
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I’m UA. 3 yrs on property and have a 777 bid. Maybe could hold NB capt next bid if it goes as junior and accounting for retirement advancement between now and then. I say go to the legacy as it gives you more options than anyone else. You can only make so much lemonade from these part 121 lemons, but at least UA has so many different flavors offered you can definitely find one that pleases your pallete for sure.
Great advice, thanks.
12-23-2018, 09:10 PM
#39
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Spirit and Frontier don’t interest me given the pay and where I want to live. I’d try for Alaska or JetBlue before those if the big majors don’t show interest.
At this point I’m just doing research for long-term plans. This is all great info and I appreciate everyone’s engagement. First I have to get through SkyWest’s training and start flying the 121 line and living the life. So baby steps.
At this point I’m just doing research for long-term plans. This is all great info and I appreciate everyone’s engagement. First I have to get through SkyWest’s training and start flying the 121 line and living the life. So baby steps.
Well spirit third year captain makes about three times a skywest captain. 208 plus 401k and 8% international override. You won’t make 200 plus no where third year .not at a legacy for sure maybe fedex or ups. if you were in the 30s then a legacy would offer more in the long run but given you have 8 years Spirit is one hell of a deal if they take you. Regarding training AQP in the spring so it’s not that bad. But hey whatever floats your boat sir and makes you happy. Whatever you do work on your apps as soon as you’re off training. You never know Military guys make 50% of all legacy hiring. Best wishes! Happy Holidays
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