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Old 12-11-2018, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
Delta allows you to drop to 0 and puts no limit on credit on the top end....
Huh.....I am pretty sure Delta does put a limit on credit on the top end. You are hard pressed (except for one-off exceptions like OE) to exceed ALV+15 hours with regard to credit. Overtime (Greenslip) pay is another story....that is simply pay, not credit.
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Huh.....I am pretty sure Delta does put a limit on credit on the top end. You are hard pressed (except for one-off exceptions like OE) to exceed ALV+15 hours with regard to credit. Overtime (Greenslip) pay is another story....that is simply pay, not credit.
False. That is a white slip pickup limit. Swap board has no limits, GS Has no limits.
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Originally Posted by tunes
False. That is a white slip pickup limit. Swap board has no limits, GS Has no limits.
Seriously dude? Read your contract.
GS gathers no credit (you can't put 50 hours of GS pay into your full service bank) and swap with the pot most certainly falls under the ALV+15 limit. Swap with friends may not be subject to the ALV+15 limit but there are still certain requirements (FAR limits) that must be honored so there is, in fact, an upper cap.
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Seriously dude? Read your contract.
GS gathers no credit (you can't put 50 hours of GS pay into your full service bank) and swap with the pot most certainly falls under the ALV+15 limit. Swap with friends may not be subject to the ALV+15 limit but there are still certain requirements (FAR limits) that must be honored so there is, in fact, an upper cap.
I’m well aware of what the contract says. My fault for saying credit when GS is pay only—that’s the only thing you got me on. As you know, we have guys in the summer getting 200+ hours of pay a month. Not sure why you bring up the bank, i made no mention of the bank. THE PILOT SWAP BOARD which you can pick up trips from, and dont have to swap, HAS NO ALV + 15 limit. Of course there is a FAR cap...everyone has a FAR cap.....
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
I’m well aware of what the contract says. My fault for saying credit when GS is pay only—that’s the only thing you got me on. As you know, we have guys in the summer getting 200+ hours of pay a month. Not sure why you bring up the bank, i made no mention of the bank. THE PILOT SWAP BOARD which you can pick up trips from HAS NO ALV + 15 limit. Of course there is a FAR cap...everyone has a FAR cap.....
Because your original post said credit...only credit goes into the bank, not pay. That is why I referenced the full service bank. Can only read what you posted, not your mind. And, re-read my reply again...as I said, there are two swaps available - swap with the pot (must honor ALV+15) and pilot-to-pilot swaps which I expressly acknowledged is not bound by the ALV+15.
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Because your original post said credit...only credit goes into the bank, not pay. That is why I referenced the full service bank. Can only read what you posted, not your mind. And, re-read my reply again...as I said, there are two swaps available - swap with the pot (must honor ALV+15) and pilot-to-pilot swaps which I expressly acknowledged is not bound by the ALV+15.
And you dont have to swap anything on the swap board..you can straight pick up without dropping or swapping....also, swap with the pot is not limited by ALV +15....the only thing that is limited by ALV + 15 is white slipping. Picking up off the swap board will reduce your max pickup, but that only applies to white slipping.
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Zenofzin
We have flexibility to drop now to 50 hrs or to make 110plus hours of credit. If your suggesting adding artificial caps and barriers to just put more bodies on the property, that hurts the companies productivity and takes money out of our pockets. It’s not the 1970s any more. Earn if you want, don’t if you don’t.
United allows you to drop to zero now too...pay attention.
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Old 12-11-2018, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Because your original post said credit...only credit goes into the bank, not pay. That is why I referenced the full service bank. Can only read what you posted, not your mind. And, re-read my reply again...as I said, there are two swaps available - swap with the pot (must honor ALV+15) and pilot-to-pilot swaps which I expressly acknowledged is not bound by the ALV+15.
Swap with the pot is not limited to ALV+15. It will reduce your WS pick up limit if you swap to something higher credit but you can keep swapping well past ALV+15.
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United allows you to drop to zero now too...pay attention.

LMAO!! Please post the first time UNITED allows a pilot to drop to zero..Heck to 50 even...
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LMAO!! Please post the first time UNITED allows a pilot to drop to zero..Heck to 50 even...
As I said, any DCA 756 FO can drop to 0 right now, including Christmas Day.
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