Vacancy 19-05V is open 12/4 -12/14
12-09-2018, 08:49 PM
#123
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 181
If you want a good test case for satellite bases, look no farther than our regional partners. They love small outstation bases in places like Indianapolis, Dayton, Columbus, Norfolk.
Many of us had to suffer under the outstation basing model. Productivity and seniority get diluted. Deadheads skyrocket. I'll take hub basing.
The Dr Dao incident started when Republic added 4 deadheads going to an outstation at the last minute.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Many of us had to suffer under the outstation basing model. Productivity and seniority get diluted. Deadheads skyrocket. I'll take hub basing.
The Dr Dao incident started when Republic added 4 deadheads going to an outstation at the last minute.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I (now) get that satellite basing might not give all union members the benefits of paid moves and other perks of opening a full base. That wasn't something I had thought of before.
No easy answers.
12-09-2018, 09:53 PM
#124
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: 777, sofa
Posts: 1,183
Likewise, I saw my seniority both enhanced and diminished as flying was moved from domicile to domicile.
A major difference between then and now is that a whole lot of very senior pilots already live in the "outstations" that are being discussed. I would argue that opening a 737 BOS or MCO satellite domicile, even without paid moves, would result in a mass exodus off WB aircraft, enhancing the seniority of everyone.
The DH argument is spurious. Half the pilot group has to DH every week as it is. They're just not compensated for it or rested after it. Plus, right now they're jamming up every open seat to every place you'd ever like use your pass benefits to visit.
12-10-2018, 06:08 AM
#126
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: Head pillow fluffer, Assistant bed maker
Posts: 1,342
One suffers from outstation basing when one is forced to move there. One benefits from it when one already lives there. I had it both ways at different times.
Likewise, I saw my seniority both enhanced and diminished as flying was moved from domicile to domicile.
A major difference between then and now is that a whole lot of very senior pilots already live in the "outstations" that are being discussed. I would argue that opening a 737 BOS or MCO satellite domicile, even without paid moves, would result in a mass exodus off WB aircraft, enhancing the seniority of everyone.
The DH argument is spurious. Half the pilot group has to DH every week as it is. They're just not compensated for it or rested after it. Plus, right now they're jamming up every open seat to every place you'd ever like use your pass benefits to visit.
Likewise, I saw my seniority both enhanced and diminished as flying was moved from domicile to domicile.
A major difference between then and now is that a whole lot of very senior pilots already live in the "outstations" that are being discussed. I would argue that opening a 737 BOS or MCO satellite domicile, even without paid moves, would result in a mass exodus off WB aircraft, enhancing the seniority of everyone.
The DH argument is spurious. Half the pilot group has to DH every week as it is. They're just not compensated for it or rested after it. Plus, right now they're jamming up every open seat to every place you'd ever like use your pass benefits to visit.
12-10-2018, 07:22 AM
#127
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 862
.................
The Dr Dao incident started when Republic added 4 deadheads going to an outstation at the last minute........
Sorry No!.....the DR Dao incident started when that unstable felon refused to comply with directions. Why he is not in prison on federal charges is the mystery to me.
The Dr Dao incident started when Republic added 4 deadheads going to an outstation at the last minute........
Sorry No!.....the DR Dao incident started when that unstable felon refused to comply with directions. Why he is not in prison on federal charges is the mystery to me.
12-10-2018, 09:25 AM
#129
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 859
RE: Regional outstation basing.
They do that because the regionals traditionally had to layover two crews or do a “standup” to cover the last flight into a small market and the first flight out, plus they have MX at cheap places like FAT, MFE ETC and need someone to swing the gear at 2 AM. Now that we do some flying in that realm I’d wager we see outstation basing before a “satellite” base.
They do that because the regionals traditionally had to layover two crews or do a “standup” to cover the last flight into a small market and the first flight out, plus they have MX at cheap places like FAT, MFE ETC and need someone to swing the gear at 2 AM. Now that we do some flying in that realm I’d wager we see outstation basing before a “satellite” base.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
