cal73

Approximately how senior does one need to be to not end up in the sim every ~3 months? Just curious. Considering the jump. Thanks gents

Floyd

A couple of posts on a public forum do not make it an issue unless it's a company determined to give it to you on the chen.

Floyd

Depends upon the domicile in regards to the staffing levels. I'd say below 70% you're rolling the dice. If one could pull $224/ and increase his or her quality of life, going to TK every three months for landings class is a small price to pay. Sign me up.

catIIIc

I am in the bottom third in my Base and I get one or two flying trips a month. Sometimes with pbs but mostly with trading.

JoePatroni

The same guys who want to go to PVG instead of SFO or ORD and then beg for landings.

cal73

Thanks Gents! Appreciate the replies

NFLUALNFL

As was said above. It's a choice you can (usually) make between lower quality flying seats or higher quality bunkie seats.



Cheers

Grumble

Those were the ones I was talking to.

UAL seasoned

I've been on the triple as a junior line holder for a little over a year and haven't had to go to landings class. (SFO) I generally get a couple of landings a month without too much effort.

Dave Fitzgerald

When I got hired, the 747-100 had pure bunkies. They were not current, could not take off or land. They were only qualified to sit in the seat at cruise.

It was an interesting situation. That was in the era of the original B-scale. But IRO was mainline pay--quite a bit below 747 F/O pay. Dick Ferris never thought that new hires under the B-scale could hold IRO so he never negotiated a B-scale for the IRO. Until several of us got the bid. Then he tried to retroactively impose a B-scale to IRO. Plain, clear, and simple in the contract, one non-b-scale pay, and it was grieved and won.

I got a big check after the grievance was won. But, the moral of the story is, yes if we had a pure IRO, it would pay less than F/O. Not because the union would want it, but management would insist. Be carful what you wish for.

The current system of bunkies is fairly well entrenched. I don't see it changing.