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Old 08-07-2018, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
Mainline should fly them and bring back the other 75 that are leased elsewhere.
100 frames back with 88 seats will bring 1200 pilot jobs at mainline
The right thing to do I would say
The company has been very consistent about 76 seat jets at mainline. This isn’t about creating mainline jobs, it’s a business and the math doesn’t work. The other option is to run fewer flights into current regional markets with larger mainline aircraft, however the consumer wants frequency and low ticket prices. Having said that and since scope isn’t for sale, the company could consider something like the A220 for us, which would allow more 76 seat rj’s for the regionals. Either way I wouldn’t expect any changes soon. The company understandably doesn’t want to make a major purchase without knowing the operating cost. Being that scope isn’t going to get any better for the company there is no need to have a contract by the amendable date and therefore those cost won’t be known for a while. On a positive note, when those cost are finally known the backlog will be huge and we still won’t feel rushed to get pilots trained.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:46 AM
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Yes, but these jets are blocked to 70 seats. I have flown this airplane and I don’t know what is the higher financial handicap. Mainline pilots flying this jet at 76+ seats or this airplane being blocked at 70 seats.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:57 AM
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Yes, but these jets are blocked to 70 seats. I have flown this airplane and I don’t know what is the higher financial handicap. Mainline pilots flying this jet at 76+ seats or this airplane being blocked at 70 seats.
The bean counters know.
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
The company has been very consistent about 76 seat jets at mainline. This isn’t about creating mainline jobs, it’s a business and the math doesn’t work. The other option is to run fewer flights into current regional markets with larger mainline aircraft, however the consumer wants frequency and low ticket prices. Having said that and since scope isn’t for sale, the company could consider something like the A220 for us, which would allow more 76 seat rj’s for the regionals. Either way I wouldn’t expect any changes soon. The company understandably doesn’t want to make a major purchase without knowing the operating cost. Being that scope isn’t going to get any better for the company there is no need to have a contract by the amendable date and therefore those cost won’t be known for a while. On a positive note, when those cost are finally known the backlog will be huge and we still won’t feel rushed to get pilots trained.
The costs are already published in our contract. There is no more risk than with any other aircraft we have in order.
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:54 AM
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Huh? So your just going to roll over for 3-5 years past the amendable date? Who says the math doesn't work? Scott K HA !





Originally Posted by Itsajob
The company has been very consistent about 76 seat jets at mainline. This isn’t about creating mainline jobs, it’s a business and the math doesn’t work. The other option is to run fewer flights into current regional markets with larger mainline aircraft, however the consumer wants frequency and low ticket prices. Having said that and since scope isn’t for sale, the company could consider something like the A220 for us, which would allow more 76 seat rj’s for the regionals. Either way I wouldn’t expect any changes soon. The company understandably doesn’t want to make a major purchase without knowing the operating cost. Being that scope isn’t going to get any better for the company there is no need to have a contract by the amendable date and therefore those cost won’t be known for a while. On a positive note, when those cost are finally known the backlog will be huge and we still won’t feel rushed to get pilots trained.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
Yes, but these jets are blocked to 70 seats. I have flown this airplane and I don’t know what is the higher financial handicap. Mainline pilots flying this jet at 76+ seats or this airplane being blocked at 70 seats.
More higher yielding first class seats isn’t necessarily a handicap.
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Originally Posted by N6279P
More higher yielding first class seats isn’t necessarily a handicap.
The ratio of first class to Econ is way off already on most of these aircraft.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
The ratio of first class to Econ is way off already on most of these aircraft.
Makes it nice for commuting pilots....
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Makes it nice for commuting pilots....
Oh yeah. But not for making money as the guy I was replying to said.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Makes it nice for commuting pilots....
Yeah having an RJ aid great compared to a mainline jet.
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