Texxx

Correction 20%

5,029,052 shares of common stock

American Airlines, Inc. 1,000,000

MasterOfPuppets

Skywest the biggest one

DG1000

I’m guessing; you have never worked at a regional have you?

CALFO

My background is completely irrelevant to my point. Let me flip this on its head and see what you think:

Jetblue is flying the heck out of jfk-mco. They can’t get more airplanes so they contract United to provide extra lift. It’s a purchase-capacity agreement so JetBlue complete controls the route. One day a JetBlue pilot is trying to get home to Orlando ( a commute she’s made for years on jetblue). She arrives at the gate an hour early only to find a Skywest pilot already at the counter. Are you telling me that she shouldn’t have an advantage over the Skywest pilot for the jumpseat?

Celeste

I do hope i'm wrong about scope relief. I'm just very skeptical of all the talk of holding the line on scope.

I do have a lot to gain by you pulling the flying back in house. Do not confuse my skepticism for not wanting to see it happen. My belief is that United and others would like to find a way to ride out this shortage as long as they can. I'm sure they're trying to find ways to keep the old regional model alive. Possibly we're at or close to the point, where they can no longer beat a dead horse. I sure hope so, but I won't get too excited until I see it happen.

Grumble

JetBlue doesn’t own the airplane. Nor does Skywest.

Celeste

I'm not sure going to an LCC and getting paid less than a regional FO (in some cases $20,000+ less)
to fly an A321 is really part of the solution, either....

DG1000

So that’s a no to my question...

To answer your flip; your proposition is untenable. Myriad of reasons why it’s not including being competitors, scope clauses, etc. We aren’t playing “what if” here. Try and use a real world scenario please?

I am just not on your side thinking mainline should have priority over a regional on that regionals own route. Those aren’t mainline flight numbers. They’re flying those routes under their own certificate. Those pilots deserve every bit of a chance to fight to commute to work just the same as mainliners do. Equal misery for all.

You have a right to your opinion but the JS wish you have I believe would start a jumpseat war where everyone loses.

Tpinks

Are you claiming that if you show up to a United Express flight and a Spirit Airlines pilot checks in before you that the Spirit pilot will get the seat over a United Pilot? Because that is what your analogy above is. If that is the case, do you even know what your jumpseat agreement between your Airline and it's regional partners is? Because as a UAX pilot, we take united people first over OAL AFTER our own pilots.

It's simple, the operating Airline (group) gets first priority over the seat. If you want the highest priority on it, then demand your company to take back the flying. Try spending your negotiating capital on that clause and see how it goes. I bet it won't go far.

And if you think for one second that you will get highest priority on the jumpseat of an aircraft operated by another airline, guess again. United Flight attendants tried to do that and guess what, the FA jumpseat is no longer available for anyone now. It's sad, but I don't feel bad when we have to leave someone behind with an open jumpseat all because that group was trying to be too greedy.

Grumble

Who sold the ticket? Whose passengers are they in the back? Whose paint job is on the airplane, logo on the ticket, jet ways, ticket counter, napkins, etc etc etc.