Oscar's the man
06-20-2018, 04:41 PM
#41
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Massive difference between wanting secure borders, and enacting a zero tolerance “lets rip the kids away” policy that sticks people in internment camps in Texas in the summer. People will come here. Some on planes, some over walls. If they’re here and have a legit asylum claim let’s figure that out. If not send them back but my god have a humane process. It’s not a crime against someone else. It’s an act of attempting to find a better life situation - something many of our own grandparents, give or take a generation, could relate to.
06-20-2018, 05:06 PM
#42
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Don't let the facts get in the way of a good news story with lots of emotion.....
DHS reported that of 12000 illegal kids detained, some 10000 came without their parents. Many were in the custody of coyotes or others even suspected in human trafficking...
Parents send the kids unaccompanied because they know the gov will not deport them. They then make arrangement to cross themselves later, after the children have been fed, given medical attention, and certified asylum... so they can be reunited, hopefully. It's a twist on the anchor baby scheme.
Of course , if you or I commit a crime with our kids in tow, and the kids have no home-they are separated and "detained" also in government facilities.
DHS reported that of 12000 illegal kids detained, some 10000 came without their parents. Many were in the custody of coyotes or others even suspected in human trafficking...
Parents send the kids unaccompanied because they know the gov will not deport them. They then make arrangement to cross themselves later, after the children have been fed, given medical attention, and certified asylum... so they can be reunited, hopefully. It's a twist on the anchor baby scheme.
Of course , if you or I commit a crime with our kids in tow, and the kids have no home-they are separated and "detained" also in government facilities.
06-20-2018, 05:12 PM
#43
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Obama was an incompetent moron. Disgusting use of FBI and the IRS against his political opponents. Obama was a nothing...one of his last acts was to approve Norwegian Air...complete tool
06-20-2018, 05:30 PM
#45
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Wait. You’re talking about inappropriate use of political power against an opponent and he’s your go to?
06-20-2018, 05:32 PM
#46
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Don't let the facts get in the way of a good news story with lots of emotion.....
DHS reported that of 12000 illegal kids detained, some 10000 came without their parents. Many were in the custody of coyotes or others even suspected in human trafficking...
Parents send the kids unaccompanied because they know the gov will not deport them. They then make arrangement to cross themselves later, after the children have been fed, given medical attention, and certified asylum... so they can be reunited, hopefully. It's a twist on the anchor baby scheme.
Of course , if you or I commit a crime with our kids in tow, and the kids have no home-they are separated and "detained" also in government facilities.
DHS reported that of 12000 illegal kids detained, some 10000 came without their parents. Many were in the custody of coyotes or others even suspected in human trafficking...
Parents send the kids unaccompanied because they know the gov will not deport them. They then make arrangement to cross themselves later, after the children have been fed, given medical attention, and certified asylum... so they can be reunited, hopefully. It's a twist on the anchor baby scheme.
Of course , if you or I commit a crime with our kids in tow, and the kids have no home-they are separated and "detained" also in government facilities.
Right, tell it to Trump, who while signing an Executive Order to stop families from being separated said: “I didn’t like the sight or the feeling of families being separated.”
06-20-2018, 05:50 PM
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Hey ya know Oscar has a really big beach house in Jax that he doesn't use much. Prolly room for about 2 dozen unaccompanied illegal kids there. For that matter, how many have you given CBP permission to house with you?
06-20-2018, 07:03 PM
#48
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That’s because a CA judge ruled that kids weren’t allowed to be housed in jail, which is where their parents go after entering illegally while going through the process. So the only option is to house the kids somewhere else while their parents go through the system (or let them go). The latter is unacceptable.
Or, they could just not break the law while putting their kids at risk.
Or, they could just not break the law while putting their kids at risk.
It has not been considered illegal in the past to try and gain entry into the USA as a refugee. While in the past the US has denied entry to some requesting status, criminalizing such a request is a new twist.
We send capital, military advisors, and intelligence operatives to their countries. This is thought of, by the powers that be, as meet, right and salutary. Perhaps it shouldn't be just a one way exchange.
I typed a bit of my family history and deleted it because I decided not to go there. Suffice it to say there are few people on this planet who are in as mortal a danger as those who are stateless. We are truly a soulless people when we forget, or worse ignore, this aspect of our world.
Last edited by MaxQ; 06-20-2018 at 07:27 PM.
06-20-2018, 07:30 PM
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I’m digging being back at the Westin in Vegas. Cheap buffet and nice pool scenery.
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