United Job Fair 2018
06-08-2018, 07:39 PM
#21
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I disagree with the friendly face across the table notion. You can’t tell me the odds are in the favor of any given candidate to have the same recruiter at the job fair turn out to being the one doing their actual interview down the road.
We really need to stop these games with regard to recruiting. We’ve been playing the “keep on doing what you’re doing” game to some highly qualified candidates at job fairs over the last 5 years and barely hired while Delta, SWA, FEDEX, etc have hired massively. Now we are going to waste everyone else’s time by inviting the top applicants to another job fair vs getting to the point and inviting them for the real interview.
We really need to stop these games with regard to recruiting. We’ve been playing the “keep on doing what you’re doing” game to some highly qualified candidates at job fairs over the last 5 years and barely hired while Delta, SWA, FEDEX, etc have hired massively. Now we are going to waste everyone else’s time by inviting the top applicants to another job fair vs getting to the point and inviting them for the real interview.
Regarding job fairs, I can think of circumstances where extremely qualified candidates are hard pressed to make these events. Do we just write them off?
06-09-2018, 12:51 PM
#23
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I had this exact situation happen during my interview, and beyond that the interviewer remebered specifics from our job fair conversation. The odds are higher than you think, considering I spoke to 3 different recruiters on 3 different occasions. Add to that one of the other recruiters I spoke to at a different fair was also interviewing candidates that day. My odds of having previously met the person doing my interview were 100%.
06-09-2018, 05:32 PM
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Ok good to know that you all saw familiar faces from your job fairs. I didn’t, so forgive me for painting with a broad brush with that statement.
With that said I still stand by my opinion that the top applicants should be going straight to an interview, not a job fair. If they are our top applicants you bet your bottom dollar they are in the wheelhouse of the other big, high paying airlines. Again, let’s not waste their time with a job fair before someone like Delta or SWA snatches them up. Or we can keep kicking the can down the road with these highly qualified pilots. I mean we do have CFI’s going through training at TK as we speak, so there is that.
With that said I still stand by my opinion that the top applicants should be going straight to an interview, not a job fair. If they are our top applicants you bet your bottom dollar they are in the wheelhouse of the other big, high paying airlines. Again, let’s not waste their time with a job fair before someone like Delta or SWA snatches them up. Or we can keep kicking the can down the road with these highly qualified pilots. I mean we do have CFI’s going through training at TK as we speak, so there is that.
06-09-2018, 05:44 PM
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Ok good to know that you all saw familiar faces from your job fairs. I didn’t, so forgive me for painting with a broad brush with that statement.
With that said I still stand by my opinion that the top applicants should be going straight to an interview, not a job fair. If they are our top applicants you bet your bottom dollar they are in the wheelhouse of the other big, high paying airlines. Again, let’s not waste their time with a job fair before someone like Delta or SWA snatches them up. Or we can keep kicking the can down the road with these highly qualified pilots. I mean we do have CFI’s going through training at TK as we speak, so there is that.
With that said I still stand by my opinion that the top applicants should be going straight to an interview, not a job fair. If they are our top applicants you bet your bottom dollar they are in the wheelhouse of the other big, high paying airlines. Again, let’s not waste their time with a job fair before someone like Delta or SWA snatches them up. Or we can keep kicking the can down the road with these highly qualified pilots. I mean we do have CFI’s going through training at TK as we speak, so there is that.
06-09-2018, 07:06 PM
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Do you think they are delaying hiring so they can wait for the job fair? Because that isn’t happening. You also assume these are the top applicants. There are probably dozens of not a hundred or more invites in the chute. Finally, fully half of these invites are family of united pilots and employees. I’m going to say that’s a good thing.
06-09-2018, 07:06 PM
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Do you think they are delaying hiring so they can wait for the job fair? Because that isn’t happening. You also assume these are the top applicants. There are probably dozens of not a hundred or more invites in the chute. Finally, fully half of these invites are family of united pilots and employees. I’m going to say that’s a good thing.
Because it says the family/sons and daughters one is later, in Nov.
06-09-2018, 07:58 PM
#29
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Anyway, I take this as a positive. Most of the criticism of having job fairs falls apart under examination. Reaching out to applicants is common across many industries. Having a better look and getting to know applicants will lead to better hiring decisions and better cockpit partners for years to come. I do, however, wish we were doing job fairs like OBAP and WAI (unpopular opinion on this site) because applicants can meet with EVERY airline in one trip (1-3 days) versus jetting all over the country to these in house fairs. Maybe ALPA should just get every carrier together and do this and donate the cash to charity.
06-10-2018, 10:25 AM
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There are two job fairs, one is for family... That's half in my book.
Anyway, I take this as a positive. Most of the criticism of having job fairs falls apart under examination. Reaching out to applicants is common across many industries. Having a better look and getting to know applicants will lead to better hiring decisions and better cockpit partners for years to come. I do, however, wish we were doing job fairs like OBAP and WAI (unpopular opinion on this site) because applicants can meet with EVERY airline in one trip (1-3 days) versus jetting all over the country to these in house fairs. Maybe ALPA should just get every carrier together and do this and donate the cash to charity.
Anyway, I take this as a positive. Most of the criticism of having job fairs falls apart under examination. Reaching out to applicants is common across many industries. Having a better look and getting to know applicants will lead to better hiring decisions and better cockpit partners for years to come. I do, however, wish we were doing job fairs like OBAP and WAI (unpopular opinion on this site) because applicants can meet with EVERY airline in one trip (1-3 days) versus jetting all over the country to these in house fairs. Maybe ALPA should just get every carrier together and do this and donate the cash to charity.
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