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05-09-2018, 06:21 PM
#61
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You can spot these guys walking through the door for a briefing.
They are almost always passive aggressive. They are usually the “mouth” during a briefing. They are concerned about the wrong stuff and try to bring up and argue minutiae. They create drama to subconsciously take the attention off their poor flying ability. When stuff goes really wrong they inevitably have one or all of typical age old excuses and it’s never their fault and they never take responsibility or ownership for their lack o skill.
These guys are not the typical rusty pilot who wants to brush up and get better. The pro bunky has perfected the bare minimum, acceptable standard, just skimming by lifestyle.
They are almost always passive aggressive. They are usually the “mouth” during a briefing. They are concerned about the wrong stuff and try to bring up and argue minutiae. They create drama to subconsciously take the attention off their poor flying ability. When stuff goes really wrong they inevitably have one or all of typical age old excuses and it’s never their fault and they never take responsibility or ownership for their lack o skill.
These guys are not the typical rusty pilot who wants to brush up and get better. The pro bunky has perfected the bare minimum, acceptable standard, just skimming by lifestyle.
Wow that is spot on!
Reminds me of one of my LAST landings class at TK. One guy loud mouth and the "expert" blah, blah, blah...I will go last ok fella's???? Instructor said um...no you go first, he fails! Can't fly! It was sad and a comedy all at the same time. Guy was a LUAL guy hired in 92' and can't fly! wow!
05-09-2018, 06:29 PM
#62
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Wow that is spot on!
Reminds me of one of my LAST landings class at TK. One guy loud mouth and the "expert" blah, blah, blah...I will go last ok fella's???? Instructor said um...no you go first, he fails! Can't fly! It was sad and a comedy all at the same time. Guy was a LUAL guy hired in 92' and can't fly! wow!
Reminds me of one of my LAST landings class at TK. One guy loud mouth and the "expert" blah, blah, blah...I will go last ok fella's???? Instructor said um...no you go first, he fails! Can't fly! It was sad and a comedy all at the same time. Guy was a LUAL guy hired in 92' and can't fly! wow!
05-09-2018, 06:38 PM
#63
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Not sure what you mean by that. They all lost their jobs, told they were going to be fired, and they still never crossed a picket line, then lived on B scale, and lost seniority for many years to a class who never had to prove themselves as non scabs if I know my history correctly. Sounds pretty stand up to me.
05-10-2018, 04:13 AM
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05-10-2018, 04:51 AM
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05-10-2018, 06:33 AM
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I would like to hear it also. All I have heard is revisionist history. They knew that they were being hired and secretly trained to SCAB. Fortunately ALPA discovered what was going on and skillfully interviened and prevented a disaster. ALPA was the hero. End the end all but 6 did not SCAB so they are not SCABs. Heroes? Not so much.
05-10-2018, 06:42 AM
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DAL guy here, trying to understand your WB positions. You guys have a biddable "bunkie" position? From what I've seen on our 4-man crews is that the senior Captain is in charge and they generally look to see who needs the landings. The last 4 man trip I did, the lead Captain pointed at us two FOs and said you guys are about to expire so you will get the landings, what breaks do you want. Always interested to hear how other operations work. Thanks.
05-10-2018, 06:54 AM
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DAL guy here, trying to understand your WB positions. You guys have a biddable "bunkie" position? From what I've seen on our 4-man crews is that the senior Captain is in charge and they generally look to see who needs the landings. The last 4 man trip I did, the lead Captain pointed at us two FOs and said you guys are about to expire so you will get the landings, what breaks do you want. Always interested to hear how other operations work. Thanks.
05-10-2018, 07:28 AM
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