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Old 04-27-2018, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis
EWR. I'd be more senior as a 320CA than a 777FO. That should probably answer my question about what the better gig is...
I’m a 320FO, been at the company for slightly more than a year. I’d be about 50% seniority in EWR. So you’re going to fly with a lot of very, very new pilots. That could be a good thing, though!
Edit: and you’ll always fly with your favorite captain!
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Old 04-27-2018, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis
EWR. I'd be more senior as a 320CA than a 777FO. That should probably answer my question about what the better gig is...

I recently went from 777FO to A320 CA in EWR. I couldn't be happier.

For me there were 2 primary issues. 1) There are a large percentage of captains in EWR on the 777 that are not enjoyable to fly with. 2) I found that I did not recover well from working on the back side of the clock which is what virtually every trip does on the 777 in EWR.

Most FOs on the 777 in EWR seemed to have no trouble switching back and forth in time zones, but I was not one of them. It really took a toll on my body. I already sleep better and feel better after only 2 months on the A320 flying trips that start after 7AM and finish by 10PM, and my May schedule has 17 days off and 78 hours. On the 777 I bid TLV and worked 12 days for 78 hours. I'm working 1 day more for the same hours but I'm infinitely happier. Just one dude's experience
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
I recently went from 777FO to A320 CA in EWR. I couldn't be happier.

For me there were 2 primary issues. 1) There are a large percentage of captains in EWR on the 777 that are not enjoyable to fly with. 2) I found that I did not recover well from working on the back side of the clock which is what virtually every trip does on the 777 in EWR.

Most FOs on the 777 in EWR seemed to have no trouble switching back and forth in time zones, but I was not one of them. It really took a toll on my body. I already sleep better and feel better after only 2 months on the A320 flying trips that start after 7AM and finish by 10PM, and my May schedule has 17 days off and 78 hours. On the 777 I bid TLV and worked 12 days for 78 hours. I'm working 1 day more for the same hours but I'm infinitely happier. Just one dude's experience
Take a look at the bid packet and look at The EWR A320 flying before you put in your bid. We have very early morning LGA and EWR flying that gets back late. One of my favorites is a 1 day ORD turn that leaves at 0600 and returns at 2200. Know what you are getting into. I see this bid going really junior especially due to the fact you will be spending your summer in DEN training.

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Old 04-28-2018, 07:10 AM
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That ORD turn is always in open time ... 420 report fml

Such garbage ... luckily on did it once
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That's the beauty of working at an international airline. Even though I had reasonable seniority as a Bus F/O, the flying slowly deteriorated to the point that it just became too much work. Too much time away, too many long sits in IAH and ORD, too many swaps, too many embedded red-eyes, etc. And the pay credit per trip stunk, at least at my seniority.

The right seat of the 777 is fantastic. Want to fly? Bid a line and go. Want to work on the boat or hang with the dog? Bid reserve.

There was a significant chunk of my career when I likely would have been better off at SWA, but that was long ago. The industry has matured and changed quite a bit since then.
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Old 04-28-2018, 08:22 AM
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Regarding the EWR Bus trips that start/finish at LGA, does company get you to/from LGA or are you on your own? What about EWR short call or long call reserve assignments that start at LGA?
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Old 04-28-2018, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SGRogue
Regarding the EWR Bus trips that start/finish at LGA, does company get you to/from LGA or are you on your own? What about EWR short call or long call reserve assignments that start at LGA?
At a multi airport base you are on your own unless the company starts you in EWR and then for some reason ends you in LGA for example. If you get a LGA trip it will start and end in LGA.

You are on reserve for all airports in a multi airport base. It expected you get to the primary airport within the 2.5 hours for SC and within a reasonable time to the others. Long call is 13 hours to the trip. You will only sit Feild STBY at the main airport (EWR).

Here are the multi hub airports:

EWR- LGA/JFK
IAD- DCA/BWI
SFO- SJC/OAK
LAX- SNA/BUR/ONT
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Old 04-28-2018, 10:23 AM
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Regarding the EWR Bus trips that start/finish at LGA, does company get you to/from LGA or are you on your own? What about EWR short call or long call reserve assignments that start at LGA?
One of the secret perks to LGA trips is company paid princess parking. The Parking Spot is nice. And actually cheaper than the P10 lot. But now that the new central terminal garage is open you can walk from your car to the plane with no bus ride. Fully reimbursed.

If you don't have your own wheels, you do get cross town pay that winds up being about $90. Which should cover your Uber.
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Old 04-28-2018, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Learjet driver
Take a look at the bid packet and look at The EWR A320 flying before you put in your bid. We have very early morning LGA and EWR flying that gets back late. One of my favorites is a 1 day ORD turn that leaves at 0600 and returns at 2200. Know what you are getting into. I see this bid going really junior especially due to the fact you will be spending your summer in DEN training.

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I’d be about 50% or maybe a little better as an A-320 Capt in EWR. However the trips are completely Uncommutable. Not going to work for me. EWR 320 looks to be for people who live in the area.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
SFO 787 CA is not going to see a bid for a long time but I bet you see backfills on 787 FO this bid. Only 16 need to bid out and a lot of the bottom has been on reserve for coming up on 3 years and all the locks have expired. If the 777 goes junior enough (60 seats is a lot) you may see 787 pilots jumping on being a line holder.

I will if I can get to 70%.......it’s a short course from 787>777
Looking at the base roster, SFO777FO is 8428 at 70.2%. SFO787FO is 8468 at 70.1%.

I haven't compared all of the seniority groupings but it doesn't look much different below 70%. Both planes look like approximately the same seniority, which is what I'd expect.
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