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Old 04-27-2018, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by turboprop87
I read that an award could be given as early as the June bid. I'm trying to go LAX to EWR. Is June a real possibility?

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It depends. Do they "need" you in LAX for the summer? Then, no.

Do they "need" you in EWR for the summer? Then, yes.

Is it possible the planning people aren't really paying attention and your lateral transfer could be completely arbitrary? Most certainly.
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Old 04-27-2018, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67
Not in the next 4 days, I meant April of 2019. Should have at least 7 of the 787-10s by then.
That makes more sense. 👍
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Old 04-27-2018, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
There are such a thing as seat locks, but that’s if you bid sideways... i.e. bus to guppy. In this instance you’ll incur a 24month bid freeze. You can go to another base, or captain seat in current equipment and no where else.

If you bid up a category, you can always bid up or base trade, but not back down for 24 months. i.e. bus/737 to 757 fo can bid up anytime, but can’t go back down to 737/bus for 24 months.

If you’re a new hire, and 757 is available out of indoc... you will not have the option to bid down for 24 months. If you get 737/bus however in indoc, you can bid up anytime.

New hires, once you hit the line it’s imperative you read and understand the contract. It’s long, and reads like stereo instructions, but dictates your entire life. It’s in your own self interest you take the time to read and understand it.
Not just new hires...the number of long term pilots who don’t take the time to read and understand their contract is sad. The company will try to skirt the contract if you let them.

Line pilots are the first line in upholding our contract. The PDR system and union volunteers are the backstop to preventing abuses by the company.
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Old 04-27-2018, 04:12 PM
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As someone who is deciding between 777FO, 787FO or 320CA I kind of wish all three were open at the same time to see how the chips may fall instead of potentially getting seat locked instead of heading to the 787.


Sounds like the 787 is going to be a Europe plane. That sounds good. Deep South stuff can suck it.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis
As someone who is deciding between 777FO, 787FO or 320CA I kind of wish all three were open at the same time to see how the chips may fall instead of potentially getting seat locked instead of heading to the 787.


Sounds like the 787 is going to be a Europe plane. That sounds good. Deep South stuff can suck it.
What bass? It’s it’s SFO the min-max paints a picture of the 78 not having a vacancy for a while unless a lot of those FOs decide to go for the left seat.

Enjoy your bus Ca bid
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
There are such a thing as seat locks, but that’s if you bid sideways... i.e. bus to guppy. In this instance you’ll incur a 24month bid freeze. You can go to another base, or captain seat in current equipment and no where else.

If you bid up a category, you can always bid up or base trade, but not back down for 24 months. i.e. bus/737 to 757 fo can bid up anytime, but can’t go back down to 737/bus for 24 months.

If you’re a new hire, and 757 is available out of indoc... you will not have the option to bid down for 24 months. If you get 737/bus however in indoc, you can bid up anytime.

New hires, once you hit the line it’s imperative you read and understand the contract. It’s long, and reads like stereo instructions, but dictates your entire life. It’s in your own self interest you take the time to read and understand it.
Contractually there is no such term as Seat lock!

We have Freezes by the book.

8-D-1 Equipment Training Freeze
8-D-2 Bidding Freeze
8-D-3 New Equipment Type Freeze
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
What bass? It’s it’s SFO the min-max paints a picture of the 78 not having a vacancy for a while unless a lot of those FOs decide to go for the left seat.

Enjoy your bus Ca bid
SFO 787 CA is not going to see a bid for a long time but I bet you see backfills on 787 FO this bid. Only 16 need to bid out and a lot of the bottom has been on reserve for coming up on 3 years and all the locks have expired. If the 777 goes junior enough (60 seats is a lot) you may see 787 pilots jumping on being a line holder.

I will if I can get to 70%.......it’s a short course from 787>777
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by No Nonsense
Contractually there is no such term as Seat lock!

We have Freezes by the book.

8-D-1 Equipment Training Freeze
8-D-2 Bidding Freeze
8-D-3 New Equipment Type Freeze
Potato Poe-tah-toe. A bid freeze is a seat lock by another name.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Potato Poe-tah-toe. A bid freeze is a seat lock by another name.
I believe the TK pronunciation is puh-tay-tuh.
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Old 04-27-2018, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
What bass? It’s it’s SFO the min-max paints a picture of the 78 not having a vacancy for a while unless a lot of those FOs decide to go for the left seat.

Enjoy your bus Ca bid

EWR. I'd be more senior as a 320CA than a 777FO. That should probably answer my question about what the better gig is...
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