SGRogue

How long after vacancy post does the final award come out? Curious about the new hire trickle down effect.

On a separate but related note, how long are new hire seat locks? I assume changing domiciles in same aircraft is a non-issue.

Thanks....treading water and hopefully out of the pool soon.

cadetdrivr

The final award is published anywhere from one day to several days later.

There is no issue with changing bases on same airplane. Do it as many times as you want.

There are no seat locks if you move UP a size category. (Example: 737 to 756).
There is a seat lock if you make a lateral move between aircraft of the same size (example: 737 to 320)

For folks in the pool the “unfilled vacancies” from this bid will be used for new hire class assignments. There is no assurance that a specific class will receive all the possibilities, only that the class drop must be built from the available slots.

No Nonsense

>> How long after vacancy post does the final award come out? Curious about the new hire trickle down effect.

On a separate but related note, how long are new hire seat locks? I assume changing domiciles in same aircraft is a non-issue.

Thanks....treading water and hopefully out of the pool soon.<<


Vacancy Bids are post for 10 days with awards after closing from that day to a few days after.

no such thing as seat locks! 8-D-1 freezes for NHs from start of TK training for 24 months but can still bid up any time (not side ways ex: 737 to 320)

unfilled vacancy's will be uses for NHs and FRs

GoCats67

This bid opens today and closes on May 7th.

I would guess the results will be posted on the 9th or 10th. The bids are "effective" for the October bid month, which means that is the approximate time they are looking at, but really just drives contractual protections for those that get a bid. But it would also mean that any "unfilled" vacancies on this bid would be available to New Hires/Furlough Recalls for the 90 days after the bid is published (so basically for any class through about Aug 7-8) Maybe we can get other New Hire classes this summer beyond the June class???

Seat Locks are generally 2 years, but only for full transition courses (which new hire would definitely be). However, you would not be "locked" out of bidding up pay bands during your freeze. So, if you got a 737 or A320 out of New Hire, you can bid 756 immediately. there are other seat locks that can be more restrictive when you bid down in pay bands or across pay bands, but that would only apply to bidding after your initial assignment. No matter your freeze you can always lateral to a different Base in the same fleet and seat.

Those of us on the inside hope this means an accelerated New Hire plan as well. Looking forward to having new folks to buy beer for and the growth that goes along with it.

Andy

When I was writing my post, I was going to make that comment - must be planning on growing LAX787, but I refrained.

They had enough time to consult the SSC; any reason why they wouldn't have done that?

webecheck

Probably going to make these awards very junior!

UALinIAH

Andy reread his post. He used a double negative. (Not done without consulting) They are always consulted.

Andy

Thanks.

filler

turboprop87

I read that an award could be given as early as the June bid. I'm trying to go LAX to EWR. Is June a real possibility?

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Grumble

There are such a thing as seat locks, but that’s if you bid sideways... i.e. bus to guppy. In this instance you’ll incur a 24month bid freeze. You can go to another base, or captain seat in current equipment and no where else.

If you bid up a category, you can always bid up or base trade, but not back down for 24 months. i.e. bus/737 to 757 fo can bid up anytime, but can’t go back down to 737/bus for 24 months.

If you’re a new hire, and 757 is available out of indoc... you will not have the option to bid down for 24 months. If you get 737/bus however in indoc, you can bid up anytime.

New hires, once you hit the line it’s imperative you read and understand the contract. It’s long, and reads like stereo instructions, but dictates your entire life. It’s in your own self interest you take the time to read and understand it.